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Don’t call it age verification.

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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

    elevenfingers@pdx.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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    @jwildeboer it also helps platforms better verify human generated content, something valuable to AI companies right now.

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

      joemug@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @jwildeboer
      seeing how they handle school shootings...
      nothing is FOR anyone anymore.

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      • ena@mastodon.gamedev.placeE ena@mastodon.gamedev.place

        @jwildeboer

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        @ena @jwildeboer alt : the discord logo, with the text 'Papers, please', in the style of the Papers, please video-game

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

          reallylazybear@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jwildeboer It always has been. "Protecting the children" my ass. It's just excuses.

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          • dominikdammer@mastodon.gamedev.placeD dominikdammer@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @jwildeboer rule of thumb: if corp or politics say theyll do it for the children, its always a lie. nobody cares about children

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            #26

            @DominikDammer
            *cough* climate change *cough*
            @jwildeboer

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            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

              cockburn@mastodon.moule.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jwildeboer remember: "never give your personal details to strangers on the internet" includes big tech corporations.

              *especially* big tech corporations.

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                growfediverse@dillyofapickle.comG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jwildeboer "The billionaire who runs Palantir wants to know which specific devices around the world are being used by our children"
                "The billionaire who runs Palantir is in the Epstein files"

                Mayhaps there is a reason other than security that he wants to know where all our children are 😬

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                  joepbc@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jwildeboer as far as I've seen so far, the only acceptible method for age verification is via an "older than X" attribute in the open source Yivi (previously IRMA) identity wallet, excluding additional identifying data.

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                  • kayo77@infosec.exchangeK kayo77@infosec.exchange

                    @jwildeboer but they have your data already…

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                    Of all the instances to use to have such a terrible take… @kayo77 @jwildeboer

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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

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                      @jwildeboer @daniel it's wild to me that people are not connecting the sudden identity verification in OSes and Anthropic not wanting to comply with US Govt mass surveilance contract

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                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                        Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                        nlupo@amikejo.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @jwildeboer If you actually care about the children you should fight any such thing, because you replace one creep with another with a badge.

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                        • joepbc@mastodon.socialJ joepbc@mastodon.social

                          @jwildeboer as far as I've seen so far, the only acceptible method for age verification is via an "older than X" attribute in the open source Yivi (previously IRMA) identity wallet, excluding additional identifying data.

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                          @joepbc @jwildeboer

                          Exactly .. With those kind of identifiers it is very well possible to keep the real data secure in a few vaults.
                          In NL banks have iDin. In a way similar. There are more solutions possible to use.

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

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                            @jwildeboer and what if we would do it the right way without central data collection? Why do we think that's only possible in a bad way?

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                            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                              Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

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                              @jwildeboer
                              Long story short :
                              Implementation on libre system is not possible (100 workaround to bypass any implementation).
                              Such law are a quarter of century too late if you compare the uncensured/unsafe internet of early 2000.

                              Real question is what does it hides ?
                              Certralised internet for alphabet and meta ?
                              Market share in favor of non-libre systems for apple and microsoft ?

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                              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

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                                This is broadcasting standards complaint worthy. The reporter parroting a false equivalence between national technological competence and building an electricity sucking con job we'll never see any benefit from. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/589629/ai-illiterate-nz-at-risk-of-being-left-behind-as-data-centre-plans-move-forward

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