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Don’t call it age verification.

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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
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    Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

    kineticdiplomacy@infosec.exchangeK kayo77@infosec.exchangeK whimsy@beige.partyW softspeak@defcon.socialS thygrrr@tiggi.esT 30 Replies Last reply
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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

      kineticdiplomacy@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
      kineticdiplomacy@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @jwildeboer indeed. also, one would think if something is harmful for ≥ arbitrary age, it might also be so for ≤ arbitrary age?

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

        kayo77@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @jwildeboer but they have your data already…

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

          whimsy@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jwildeboer

          I call it Identity Surveillance.

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          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

            Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

            softspeak@defcon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @jwildeboer
            Let me assure you, There's is 100% chance they are going to be people suing each other online for hurt feelings, once anonymity is gone. Arrests will be made base on hints of what is seriously or jokingly mentioned.

            I left Facebook 15 years ago when they asked for my ID, at that time I was using a moniker handle. I was shocked that a social network demanded my ID (someone wanted to attempt to sue me) because was saying a lot of unsavory political things to Bush-voters. I just never gave Facebook my ID, and they closed my account.

            This experience repeated on twitter a few years later. Now I see Discord and Google are doing it.

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            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

              thygrrr@tiggi.esT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jwildeboer it's absolutely a play to snatch the Midterms, too.

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                ena@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
                ena@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jwildeboer

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                  ddgulledge@social.linux.pizzaD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jwildeboer I predict that more than one implementation of age verification will allow the user to check a box to indicate that they live in a jurisdiction that does not require it.

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                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                    Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                    rakowskibartosz@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @jwildeboer the absurdity of it is mind blowing. Does anyone who works on regulations have an idea how risky it is to give random social media vendors legitimate interest in processing IDs?
                    Those will leak, get hacked, and people's biometric will be available for purchase. One can change their password, but the face?

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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                      blenderdumbass@mastodon.onlineB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jwildeboer "Surveillance Masked by Ageism"

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                      • ddgulledge@social.linux.pizzaD ddgulledge@social.linux.pizza

                        @jwildeboer I predict that more than one implementation of age verification will allow the user to check a box to indicate that they live in a jurisdiction that does not require it.

                        project1enigma@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @ddgulledge @jwildeboer

                        Probably not, when geolocation is simple.

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                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                          Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                          clonedhuman@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @jwildeboer The CEOs of the corporations pushing for age verification all over the planet have likely raped children.

                          They're also the ones who always push their own agenda as something that must be done 'for the children.' They've been doing that in the United States since Reagan.

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

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                            @jwildeboer whenever someone says “won’t someone think of the children” I’ve learned to check where my wallet is because someone’s trying to rob me.

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                            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                              Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                              kaito02@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              (kindly check your nearest infosec.exchange member if antifascism is right for them)

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                              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                                dominikdammer@mastodon.gamedev.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @jwildeboer rule of thumb: if corp or politics say theyll do it for the children, its always a lie. nobody cares about children

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                                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                  Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                                  spreadthetruth@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @jwildeboer and when I went to update my dTap shot in order to get that I had to divulge my gender and other intrusive invasive and totally worthless information that has nothing to do with my health and it's all in the name of surveillance and collecting data

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                                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                    Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                                    curiously@mastodon.auC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @jwildeboer I'm sure it's perfectly safe

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                                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                      Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

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                                      @jwildeboer

                                      "if I have been using your service for over 19 years, do not ask me for age verification or I will find a competitor"

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                                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                        Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                                        peribotsarah@babka.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @jwildeboer it's certainly an easier sale than convincing voters they should just auction off the driver's license database registry

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                                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                          Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.

                                          shom@gts.shom.devS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @jwildeboer I've been calling it what it is, government idenity monitoring. That seems to resonate with a few people who are otherwise calloused from privacy erosion.

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