I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
@JessTheUnstill I feel like their business model alone is a good enough reason to fear them, the logistics are just the icing on the cake.
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@JessTheUnstill I feel like their business model alone is a good enough reason to fear them, the logistics are just the icing on the cake.
@SymTrkl Oh sure. There's other reasons to dislike them. But that's dislike of them for business/moral/ethical reasons. Not my fear of them.
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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
@JessTheUnstill I won a cruise before from a job and I just never had it in me to cash it in. I kinda assumed it was a scam and that I'd practically pay for the whole thing with fees. I'm not even sure you could pay me to go on a cruise at this point. I have similar fears about being trapped somewhere.
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@SymTrkl Oh sure. There's other reasons to dislike them. But that's dislike of them for business/moral/ethical reasons. Not my fear of them.
@JessTheUnstill True, but otoh is the fear of literally any boat not a given? (Yes I am from a landlocked state how did you know?)
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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
@JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange even before the recent pandemic, and the two more recent cruise ship outbreaks, I found the idea of cruise ships distasteful, entirely antithetical to what I desired from a trip/vacation. Then I also learnt about their pollution. -
I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
@JessTheUnstill Similar feelings on these. They are ok in fiction, as their main traits are very useful in horror settings, but there are safer ways of spending time with less negative externalities.
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@JessTheUnstill True, but otoh is the fear of literally any boat not a given? (Yes I am from a landlocked state how did you know?)
@SymTrkl I don't mind little day trip boats - I used to scuba dive and it was a lot of fun. But being out at sea for days on end only to land in little islands selling tourist crap and paying hundreds of dollars for tours to see the tourist traps...
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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
@JessTheUnstill I love the idea of them. It would be akin to my love of the idea with living in an RV or van home. Waking up in a new place and ready for new adventures sounds awesome.
The reality, as you point out, is far less romantic. -
@JessTheUnstill I love the idea of them. It would be akin to my love of the idea with living in an RV or van home. Waking up in a new place and ready for new adventures sounds awesome.
The reality, as you point out, is far less romantic.@johnduggins When they go well, they sound like they're fun (aside from the fact that they pollute a ton and charge you extra for EVERYTHING). But it's the fact that when they go wrong, shit goes very very wrong ...
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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
@JessTheUnstill ship breaks and now you’re stranded in the middle of literal nowhere, surrounded by deep water.
Who knows what’s down there?
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@JessTheUnstill ship breaks and now you’re stranded in the middle of literal nowhere, surrounded by deep water.
Who knows what’s down there?
@Aurani The "poop cruise" ...
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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
@JessTheUnstill someone once told me that cruise ships are just Americans wanting a walkable urban experience without being in an actual city that might make them uncomfortable. So makes sense in an authoritarian way, they don’t mind being locked up as long as it’s with the “right” people.
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@JessTheUnstill someone once told me that cruise ships are just Americans wanting a walkable urban experience without being in an actual city that might make them uncomfortable. So makes sense in an authoritarian way, they don’t mind being locked up as long as it’s with the “right” people.
@irene see exotic places without ever actually having to interact with "the wrong sort". I mean if I go to a resort I'm still interacting with the tourism industry, but even still.
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@irene see exotic places without ever actually having to interact with "the wrong sort". I mean if I go to a resort I'm still interacting with the tourism industry, but even still.
@JessTheUnstill oh yeah something like this. Suburbanites paying to go on vacation in an apartment building.
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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
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In emergencies, you _can_ get airlifted off the ship, which I know because the one cruise I’ve been on, someone had a heart attack, and the USCG sent out two rescue helicopters and did indeed rescue him.
Also, that was the most impressive formation flying I’ve ever seen - unbelievably accurate vector match to the ship and each other. -
@JessTheUnstill oh yeah something like this. Suburbanites paying to go on vacation in an apartment building.
@irene Yeah, if it wasn't for my desire for a yard to toss my pup into, I wouldn't mind apartment/condo living. I really loved my last place which was a 900 sq ft townhouse in a dense part of town. We barely ever drove anywhere except for our monthly Costco run and to go visit family. My car battery kept dying
Even still we barely drive, it just means we have fewer options for restaurants or groceries. But just the knowledge that at any point in time I could walk to the park and keep going through green space for miles. Or going to the subway and going anywhere made me not claustrophobic about it all. Cruise ships, like that picture just gives me heebie jeebies.
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@JessTheUnstill someone once told me that cruise ships are just Americans wanting a walkable urban experience without being in an actual city that might make them uncomfortable. So makes sense in an authoritarian way, they don’t mind being locked up as long as it’s with the “right” people.
This is so accurate! They want a Disneyfied version of whatever place they claim to visit.
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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.
The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.
How come you never hear about this on Navy ships and subs? Just cruise ships
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In emergencies, you _can_ get airlifted off the ship, which I know because the one cruise I’ve been on, someone had a heart attack, and the USCG sent out two rescue helicopters and did indeed rescue him.
Also, that was the most impressive formation flying I’ve ever seen - unbelievably accurate vector match to the ship and each other.@demi Yeah for actual emergencies. But I'm just talking about my irrational fear of "I'm feeling trapped and really need to go and be... Not Here." Somewhere else. I don't want to be at the mercy of others whether I can just put on my shoes and walk in some direction. Or hail a cab and exist somewhere else. I can tolerate a whole lot more situations as long as I know I have the Option to leave if I need to.
