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I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.

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  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

    I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.

    The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.

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    @JessTheUnstill Similar feelings on these. They are ok in fiction, as their main traits are very useful in horror settings, but there are safer ways of spending time with less negative externalities.

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    • symtrkl@anarres.familyS symtrkl@anarres.family

      @JessTheUnstill True, but otoh is the fear of literally any boat not a given? (Yes I am from a landlocked state how did you know?)

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      @SymTrkl I don't mind little day trip boats - I used to scuba dive and it was a lot of fun. But being out at sea for days on end only to land in little islands selling tourist crap and paying hundreds of dollars for tours to see the tourist traps...

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      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

        I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.

        The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.

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        @JessTheUnstill I love the idea of them. It would be akin to my love of the idea with living in an RV or van home. Waking up in a new place and ready for new adventures sounds awesome.
        The reality, as you point out, is far less romantic.

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        • johnduggins@infosec.exchangeJ johnduggins@infosec.exchange

          @JessTheUnstill I love the idea of them. It would be akin to my love of the idea with living in an RV or van home. Waking up in a new place and ready for new adventures sounds awesome.
          The reality, as you point out, is far less romantic.

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          @johnduggins When they go well, they sound like they're fun (aside from the fact that they pollute a ton and charge you extra for EVERYTHING). But it's the fact that when they go wrong, shit goes very very wrong ...

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          • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

            I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.

            The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.

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            @JessTheUnstill ship breaks and now you’re stranded in the middle of literal nowhere, surrounded by deep water.

            Who knows what’s down there?

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            • aurani@tech.lgbtA aurani@tech.lgbt

              @JessTheUnstill ship breaks and now you’re stranded in the middle of literal nowhere, surrounded by deep water.

              Who knows what’s down there?

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              @Aurani The "poop cruise" ...

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              In February 2013, 4,200 passengers and crew members were stranded on the Carnival Triumph in the Gulf of Mexico for four days during the "Poop Cruise."

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              • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.

                The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.

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                @JessTheUnstill someone once told me that cruise ships are just Americans wanting a walkable urban experience without being in an actual city that might make them uncomfortable. So makes sense in an authoritarian way, they don’t mind being locked up as long as it’s with the “right” people.

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                • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

                  @JessTheUnstill someone once told me that cruise ships are just Americans wanting a walkable urban experience without being in an actual city that might make them uncomfortable. So makes sense in an authoritarian way, they don’t mind being locked up as long as it’s with the “right” people.

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                  @irene see exotic places without ever actually having to interact with "the wrong sort". I mean if I go to a resort I'm still interacting with the tourism industry, but even still.

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                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                    @irene see exotic places without ever actually having to interact with "the wrong sort". I mean if I go to a resort I'm still interacting with the tourism industry, but even still.

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                    @JessTheUnstill oh yeah something like this. Suburbanites paying to go on vacation in an apartment building.

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                      I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.

                      The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.

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                      @JessTheUnstill
                      In emergencies, you _can_ get airlifted off the ship, which I know because the one cruise I’ve been on, someone had a heart attack, and the USCG sent out two rescue helicopters and did indeed rescue him.
                      Also, that was the most impressive formation flying I’ve ever seen - unbelievably accurate vector match to the ship and each other.

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                      • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

                        @JessTheUnstill oh yeah something like this. Suburbanites paying to go on vacation in an apartment building.

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                        @irene Yeah, if it wasn't for my desire for a yard to toss my pup into, I wouldn't mind apartment/condo living. I really loved my last place which was a 900 sq ft townhouse in a dense part of town. We barely ever drove anywhere except for our monthly Costco run and to go visit family. My car battery kept dying 😭 Even still we barely drive, it just means we have fewer options for restaurants or groceries.

                        But just the knowledge that at any point in time I could walk to the park and keep going through green space for miles. Or going to the subway and going anywhere made me not claustrophobic about it all. Cruise ships, like that picture just gives me heebie jeebies.

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                        • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

                          @JessTheUnstill someone once told me that cruise ships are just Americans wanting a walkable urban experience without being in an actual city that might make them uncomfortable. So makes sense in an authoritarian way, they don’t mind being locked up as long as it’s with the “right” people.

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                          @irene

                          This is so accurate! They want a Disneyfied version of whatever place they claim to visit.

                          @JessTheUnstill

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                          • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                            I feel like my fear of cruise ships is justified in that it's an enclosed space, diseases can run rampant, and you can be effectively imprisoned there when something goes wrong.

                            The ship loses power. A disease outbreak. Fog closes the port. A bad storm. Whatever. At least (if)/when I go to a resort, I'm on land. I can go to a hospital. If there's some disease outbreak, I'm not stuck in my little tiny cabin for days on end. I can catch the next flight home if I have to.

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                            How come you never hear about this on Navy ships and subs? Just cruise ships
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                              @JessTheUnstill
                              In emergencies, you _can_ get airlifted off the ship, which I know because the one cruise I’ve been on, someone had a heart attack, and the USCG sent out two rescue helicopters and did indeed rescue him.
                              Also, that was the most impressive formation flying I’ve ever seen - unbelievably accurate vector match to the ship and each other.

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                              @demi Yeah for actual emergencies. But I'm just talking about my irrational fear of "I'm feeling trapped and really need to go and be... Not Here." Somewhere else. I don't want to be at the mercy of others whether I can just put on my shoes and walk in some direction. Or hail a cab and exist somewhere else. I can tolerate a whole lot more situations as long as I know I have the Option to leave if I need to.

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                              • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                @demi Yeah for actual emergencies. But I'm just talking about my irrational fear of "I'm feeling trapped and really need to go and be... Not Here." Somewhere else. I don't want to be at the mercy of others whether I can just put on my shoes and walk in some direction. Or hail a cab and exist somewhere else. I can tolerate a whole lot more situations as long as I know I have the Option to leave if I need to.

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                                @JessTheUnstill
                                Yeah, that is totally valid

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                                • passthejoe@snac.bsd.cafeP passthejoe@snac.bsd.cafe
                                  How come you never hear about this on Navy ships and subs? Just cruise ships
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                                  @passthejoe USS Ford. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/18/onboard-fire-uss-gerald-ford-aircraft-carrier

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                                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                    @passthejoe USS Ford. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/18/onboard-fire-uss-gerald-ford-aircraft-carrier

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                                    @passthejoe You don't hear about a lot of them either because they keep it confidential or it's simply not newsworthy.

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                                    • passthejoe@snac.bsd.cafeP passthejoe@snac.bsd.cafe
                                      How come you never hear about this on Navy ships and subs? Just cruise ships
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                                      @passthejoe @JessTheUnstill
                                      Vaccines and proper maintenance. If someone does get sick there’s a medical center on board.

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                                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                        @irene Yeah, if it wasn't for my desire for a yard to toss my pup into, I wouldn't mind apartment/condo living. I really loved my last place which was a 900 sq ft townhouse in a dense part of town. We barely ever drove anywhere except for our monthly Costco run and to go visit family. My car battery kept dying 😭 Even still we barely drive, it just means we have fewer options for restaurants or groceries.

                                        But just the knowledge that at any point in time I could walk to the park and keep going through green space for miles. Or going to the subway and going anywhere made me not claustrophobic about it all. Cruise ships, like that picture just gives me heebie jeebies.

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                                        @JessTheUnstill yeah I have the opposite feeling. If not for my desire to have restaurants and stores, I’d live in a cabin in the woods.

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                                        • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

                                          @JessTheUnstill yeah I have the opposite feeling. If not for my desire to have restaurants and stores, I’d live in a cabin in the woods.

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                                          @irene I used to love being out in the wilderness. These days, being Out as a trans lesbian, I feel more safety and comfort in places where I can be lost in the crowd of people just as weird and weirder than me. 6'2" blue haired trans woman? That's not even the weirdest person that the shopkeeper has seen this afternoon. Small towns? Unless I'm going into a college town for supplies, I'm going to be the weirdest person at the Walmart. Even if most folks are okay with me, there's going to be Those Assholes. I don't like going into the countryside very much anymore.

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