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We are thrilled to announce the public availability of Fairplayer for Faircamp, the first step in our vision of a #decentralized #music platform.

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  • wtebbens@social.coopW wtebbens@social.coop

    Dear @fairplayer and Faircamp community, I love your work to giving back control to the artists, the musicians.

    How can we as listeners give back, make a donation as a token of our appreciation? I mean beyond the Kofi/patron/liberapay links that some artists publish on their site. Ultimately the economics are important, so I'm curious what's your vision/plans for that. I guess it's different from the pay2own model from https://resonate.coop

    Amazing what you are doing. This helps with the #boicotspotify

    fairplayer@social.anartist.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Wtebbens

    Hi!

    Thanks for your support! 🙂

    Your question points to a very relevant aspect. We want to implement tools to reward artists in the next steps.

    We are organizing our local ecosystem in order to generate debate between listeners and artists to reach a fair system. Our idea is to give the tools to adapt to the needs of each community.

    Our vision is that, in the end, both control and responsibility of sustainability should be on artists but also listeners.

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    • fairplayer@social.anartist.orgF fairplayer@social.anartist.org

      We are thrilled to announce the public availability of Fairplayer for Faircamp, the first step in our vision of a #decentralized #music platform.

      After a few months of building, and the generous help of artists who have participated in our trial period, https://fairplayer.band is open to the world. If you are an artist that has a #Faircamp site, or someone wanting to listen to music from independent artists, come and tell us what you think!

      Special thanks to @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan who have already contributed their music in this very early stage!

      liaizon@social.wake.stL This user is from outside of this forum
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      @fairplayer wow this looks amazing! Are you also working on Bandwagon support? cc @benpate

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      • fairplayer@social.anartist.orgF fairplayer@social.anartist.org

        We are thrilled to announce the public availability of Fairplayer for Faircamp, the first step in our vision of a #decentralized #music platform.

        After a few months of building, and the generous help of artists who have participated in our trial period, https://fairplayer.band is open to the world. If you are an artist that has a #Faircamp site, or someone wanting to listen to music from independent artists, come and tell us what you think!

        Special thanks to @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan who have already contributed their music in this very early stage!

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        @fairplayer @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan

        I've been dying to see this vision take off. decentralized Spotify where the music comes from artists' websites and some version of your friends' boosts replace their algorithm. then maybe we can support them via a monthly donation that gets automatically and directly paid to them based on the percentage of our time we spend with their work. #PublicPatron

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        • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

          @fairplayer @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan

          I've been dying to see this vision take off. decentralized Spotify where the music comes from artists' websites and some version of your friends' boosts replace their algorithm. then maybe we can support them via a monthly donation that gets automatically and directly paid to them based on the percentage of our time we spend with their work. #PublicPatron

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          @wjmaggos @fairplayer @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar I love that. I started building out https://auxpack.club to help on the patronage side, by enabling artists to band together and reduce exposure to processing fees

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          • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

            @fairplayer wow this looks amazing! Are you also working on Bandwagon support? cc @benpate

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            @liaizon @benpate

            Hi! Thanks a lot!

            We are not working on it specifically although we have them on the radar. Our idea is to work together with the decentralized musical ecosystem (some of it we are already in contact) towards standardized protocols.

            We believe in cooperation rather than competition and we want to take special care on creator's consent.

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            • kidlightbulbs@musicworld.socialK kidlightbulbs@musicworld.social

              @wjmaggos @fairplayer @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar I love that. I started building out https://auxpack.club to help on the patronage side, by enabling artists to band together and reduce exposure to processing fees

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              @kidlightbulbs @wjmaggos @fairplayer

              That is very interesting! Personally, I think that individual patronage can drive to dangerous dynamics on the artists and I am more for a "community" of artists patronage.

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              • fairplayer@social.anartist.orgF fairplayer@social.anartist.org

                @liaizon @benpate

                Hi! Thanks a lot!

                We are not working on it specifically although we have them on the radar. Our idea is to work together with the decentralized musical ecosystem (some of it we are already in contact) towards standardized protocols.

                We believe in cooperation rather than competition and we want to take special care on creator's consent.

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                @fairplayer @liaizon @benpate

                there was talk of trying to do this on an @lorenzosmusic episode with @fluffy. yea working out some kind of open protocol seems key.

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                • fairplayer@social.anartist.orgF fairplayer@social.anartist.org

                  We are thrilled to announce the public availability of Fairplayer for Faircamp, the first step in our vision of a #decentralized #music platform.

                  After a few months of building, and the generous help of artists who have participated in our trial period, https://fairplayer.band is open to the world. If you are an artist that has a #Faircamp site, or someone wanting to listen to music from independent artists, come and tell us what you think!

                  Special thanks to @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan who have already contributed their music in this very early stage!

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                  Cc @jeffcliff
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                    @jeffcliff @NonPlayableClown @blankfosk

                    Hi!

                    License is defined by each artist. Our music local ecosystem has a complex mixture of different licenses and we want to remain inclusive here.

                    This doesn't mean that free culture should not be promoted. Fairplayer is free software and can be installed by anyone. One could host a fairplayer that only accepted music with free licenses (and probably this make a lot of sense).

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                      >not seeing anything about creative commons here

                      I mean it's not own by the service.
                      It's heavily reliant on how the user handles licensing.

                      >ie looks like a spotify/bandcamp competitor, nothing more

                      Except it's open and accessible without requiring a license deal with the service provider.
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                        @jeffcliff @NonPlayableClown @blankfosk

                        The approach we propose is that artist hosts their music so they retain high degree of control, keeping very low resource-demanding the player so it has not to scale much and making core mutual consent.

                        We are promoting a lot of contacts between listeners and artists in our local ecosystem in order to reach a fair rewards system that is adequate for everyone.

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                        • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

                          @fairplayer @liaizon @benpate

                          there was talk of trying to do this on an @lorenzosmusic episode with @fluffy. yea working out some kind of open protocol seems key.

                          Lorenzo's Music (@lorenzosmusic@mastodon.social)

                          🎤💻 On our podcast, I have a fascinating conversation with Fluffy @fluffy@plush.city from Sockpuppet! I ask them about the blend of music and VR performances! Listen now! https://www.lorenzosmusic.com/podcast/sockpuppet-lorenzos-music-podcast/ #VRMusic #Podcast #music

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                          @wjmaggos @fairplayer @liaizon @benpate @lorenzosmusic Hello, yes! The referenced protocol spec is at https://github.com/PlaidWeb/Canimus and I know there’s interest from Simon Repp in adding it to Faircamp. I’ve got some prototype implementations of the protocol up on my own site https://sockpuppet.band/ as well as on https://songfight.org/

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                          • fluffy@plush.cityF fluffy@plush.city

                            @wjmaggos @fairplayer @liaizon @benpate @lorenzosmusic Hello, yes! The referenced protocol spec is at https://github.com/PlaidWeb/Canimus and I know there’s interest from Simon Repp in adding it to Faircamp. I’ve got some prototype implementations of the protocol up on my own site https://sockpuppet.band/ as well as on https://songfight.org/

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                            @fluffy thanks! Yes we are aware of this work! (I am one of the Fairplayer devs).

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                            • fairplayer@social.anartist.orgF fairplayer@social.anartist.org

                              We are thrilled to announce the public availability of Fairplayer for Faircamp, the first step in our vision of a #decentralized #music platform.

                              After a few months of building, and the generous help of artists who have participated in our trial period, https://fairplayer.band is open to the world. If you are an artist that has a #Faircamp site, or someone wanting to listen to music from independent artists, come and tell us what you think!

                              Special thanks to @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan who have already contributed their music in this very early stage!

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                              @fairplayer Looks great! Is there an API?

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                              • fairplayer@social.anartist.orgF fairplayer@social.anartist.org

                                We are thrilled to announce the public availability of Fairplayer for Faircamp, the first step in our vision of a #decentralized #music platform.

                                After a few months of building, and the generous help of artists who have participated in our trial period, https://fairplayer.band is open to the world. If you are an artist that has a #Faircamp site, or someone wanting to listen to music from independent artists, come and tell us what you think!

                                Special thanks to @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan who have already contributed their music in this very early stage!

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                                @fairplayer @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan What about DRM?

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                                • dmd@mastodon.socialD dmd@mastodon.social

                                  @fairplayer Looks great! Is there an API?

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                                  @dmd

                                  Hi! Thanks!

                                  For now, we are focusing in maturing a responsive web app. So an API is not in the early road, although new features will arise from the community needs.

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                                  • fbulow@mastodon.socialF fbulow@mastodon.social

                                    @fairplayer @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan What about DRM?

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                                    @fbulow Hi!

                                    There has not been a debate on that, but there is not any plan in the roadmap to support audio files DRM from the player.

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                                    • fairplayer@social.anartist.orgF fairplayer@social.anartist.org

                                      We are thrilled to announce the public availability of Fairplayer for Faircamp, the first step in our vision of a #decentralized #music platform.

                                      After a few months of building, and the generous help of artists who have participated in our trial period, https://fairplayer.band is open to the world. If you are an artist that has a #Faircamp site, or someone wanting to listen to music from independent artists, come and tell us what you think!

                                      Special thanks to @radisolar @blankfosk @helenbellmusic @maciac @sofisoft @kidlightbulbs @aymanhamad @laribal @txels @james @Omar @choan who have already contributed their music in this very early stage!

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                                      @fairplayer glad to see projects like this! To echo others, some kind of artist payment is critical before being adopted by most artists.

                                      I've long been thinking about an open source, decentralized Spotify alternative that pays the artists the vast majority of all revenue, maybe metered by the minute rather than per stream, up to a maximum monthly payment from the user.

                                      Another option is Bandcamp-style purchasing of music. Artists I know like the Bandcamp model. Purchased music would go into one's local library, and would be playable by the streaming app for free, integrated seamlessly with the non-owned (metered) content.

                                      Good luck with this project!

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                                      • jamesmarshall@sfba.socialJ jamesmarshall@sfba.social

                                        @fairplayer glad to see projects like this! To echo others, some kind of artist payment is critical before being adopted by most artists.

                                        I've long been thinking about an open source, decentralized Spotify alternative that pays the artists the vast majority of all revenue, maybe metered by the minute rather than per stream, up to a maximum monthly payment from the user.

                                        Another option is Bandcamp-style purchasing of music. Artists I know like the Bandcamp model. Purchased music would go into one's local library, and would be playable by the streaming app for free, integrated seamlessly with the non-owned (metered) content.

                                        Good luck with this project!

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                                        @jamesmarshall Thank you!

                                        We are in close contact with both listeners and musicians in our local area (in fact, we have both in our development team). Our vision is to let them decide which should be the best payment equilibrium and provide the tools to do it.

                                        The ability of purchase music to download is something that we have already discussed, although we are in a very early stage of the development and it will be shaped by the needs of the community!

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                                        • fluffy@plush.cityF fluffy@plush.city

                                          @wjmaggos @fairplayer @liaizon @benpate @lorenzosmusic Hello, yes! The referenced protocol spec is at https://github.com/PlaidWeb/Canimus and I know there’s interest from Simon Repp in adding it to Faircamp. I’ve got some prototype implementations of the protocol up on my own site https://sockpuppet.band/ as well as on https://songfight.org/

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                                          @fluffy @wjmaggos @fairplayer @liaizon @benpate I didn't know about the song fight one, I like that concept 😀

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