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Bernie Sanders just created a video to make a point about issues of privacy in AI (a real problem).

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  • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

    On another day, we'll discuss why this is happening.

    Effective altruists and overall TESCREAL bundle billionaires have infiltrated the labor movement and journalism, offering fellowships with staggering amounts of money like they invested ridiculous amounts of money into these companies claiming to build machine gods.

    Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution."

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    @timnitGebru Thank you for this!

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    • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

      Bernie Sanders just created a video to make a point about issues of privacy in AI (a real problem). His supporters on Muskrat's platform came for me when I quote tweeted his post saying, "at this point, Bernie’s job seems to be lobbying for Anthropic."

      So I'm going to elaborate on the corporate psyop that has been happening since the beginning of time and how no one seems to learn their lesson.

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      @timnitGebru

      So many people both want to believe and lack the understanding to be critical.

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      • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

        Bernie Sanders just created a video to make a point about issues of privacy in AI (a real problem). His supporters on Muskrat's platform came for me when I quote tweeted his post saying, "at this point, Bernie’s job seems to be lobbying for Anthropic."

        So I'm going to elaborate on the corporate psyop that has been happening since the beginning of time and how no one seems to learn their lesson.

        tanquist@masto.aiT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @timnitGebru
        Disappointing news. I am so tired of seemingly intelligent people parroting AI hype.

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        • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

          On another day, we'll discuss why this is happening.

          Effective altruists and overall TESCREAL bundle billionaires have infiltrated the labor movement and journalism, offering fellowships with staggering amounts of money like they invested ridiculous amounts of money into these companies claiming to build machine gods.

          Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution."

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          @timnitGebru yes! As always... Follow the money 💵

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          • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

            On another day, we'll discuss why this is happening.

            Effective altruists and overall TESCREAL bundle billionaires have infiltrated the labor movement and journalism, offering fellowships with staggering amounts of money like they invested ridiculous amounts of money into these companies claiming to build machine gods.

            Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution."

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            @timnitGebru

            Crassus and his fire brigade of slaves.

            Set the house on fire > negotiate to buy it for nearly nothing > put the fire out > sell it back at a grossly inflated price.

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            • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

              On another day, we'll discuss why this is happening.

              Effective altruists and overall TESCREAL bundle billionaires have infiltrated the labor movement and journalism, offering fellowships with staggering amounts of money like they invested ridiculous amounts of money into these companies claiming to build machine gods.

              Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution."

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              @timnitGebru

              "First a toy, then a tool then a weapon". The AI Ethics debate is so shot-through with self-dealing I just don't think I want to waste time on it. I will be ethical in congruence with my belief we are all in this together. that as I fare, so also shall our machines be created in our image.

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              • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                You don't believe Altman is such a figure but you think Amodei, who insisted that OpenAI use all 10,000 GPUs and train the biggest model possible, when he was there, is such a figure?

                In his video, Bernie is literally creating a Claude ad, showing the system as an all knowing being that answers all of his questions. An ad for Anthropic, a company claiming that they can't even confidently say that "Claude isn't conscious".

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                @timnitGebru@dair-community.social Ya, I'm so tired of the "let's ask a chat bot about chatbot-related issues". It isn't interesting that someone coerced a chatbot into saying something even I might agree with. It's just a random word generator.

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                • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                  Bernie Sanders just created a video to make a point about issues of privacy in AI (a real problem). His supporters on Muskrat's platform came for me when I quote tweeted his post saying, "at this point, Bernie’s job seems to be lobbying for Anthropic."

                  So I'm going to elaborate on the corporate psyop that has been happening since the beginning of time and how no one seems to learn their lesson.

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                  @timnitGebru from another perspective: it might be a move to convince people that only believe in god, that god is dead, which they would only believe if said by itself.

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                  • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                    Bernie has been repeating, almost verbatim, Dario Amodei's talking points, for a while now, even quote tweeting him. Amodei positions Anthropic as the ethical alternative to OpenAI just like OpenAI positioned itself as the ethical alternative to Google in 2015 and everyone ate it up. This was an article from then, the headline says that Muskrat, Thiel, Altman + friends founded an "altruistic AI venture" 🙄
                    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35082344

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                    @timnitGebru cancer kills you in stages. First it starts hovering up all the resources to grow at the cost of everything else, then it puts pressure on other systems making it hard for them to function (markets / governments)
                    It then either crushes everything else to the point of killing its host and itself
                    Or it fails leaving catastrophic damage to the host. (Bubble collapse)

                    Even if the magical black box machine god manages infinite exponential growth as promised (which I doubt) it kills you either directly or by consuming your ecosystem. A child can see linear systems are by definition one way.

                    The total lack of regulation, the misappropriation of resources (intellectual and other) and the push to militarize by dumping more resources into it bodes so very well.

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                    • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                      Bernie Sanders just created a video to make a point about issues of privacy in AI (a real problem). His supporters on Muskrat's platform came for me when I quote tweeted his post saying, "at this point, Bernie’s job seems to be lobbying for Anthropic."

                      So I'm going to elaborate on the corporate psyop that has been happening since the beginning of time and how no one seems to learn their lesson.

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                      @timnitGebru

                      AI cannot do your job

                      Your boss bought AI to do your job

                      You're fired

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                      • tanquist@masto.aiT tanquist@masto.ai

                        @timnitGebru
                        Disappointing news. I am so tired of seemingly intelligent people parroting AI hype.

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                        @tanquist @timnitGebru 100% this. I see it everywhere now and it’s so tiring. I’m not surprised though. Con men tactics work very well after all

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                        • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                          On another day, we'll discuss why this is happening.

                          Effective altruists and overall TESCREAL bundle billionaires have infiltrated the labor movement and journalism, offering fellowships with staggering amounts of money like they invested ridiculous amounts of money into these companies claiming to build machine gods.

                          Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution."

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                          @timnitGebru I was really disappointed to hear Bernie in some interview a while back play the doomer card. All I can think of is who has been pouring poison in his ear. As he talked I realized it was the Amodei gang and it was further proof that one should not get too attached to popular figures.

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                          • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                            On another day, we'll discuss why this is happening.

                            Effective altruists and overall TESCREAL bundle billionaires have infiltrated the labor movement and journalism, offering fellowships with staggering amounts of money like they invested ridiculous amounts of money into these companies claiming to build machine gods.

                            Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution."

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                            @timnitGebru And developers. A developer here was boasting just the other day how she got a big grant from Bluesky for dev on activity pub and couldn't see why it was a problem.

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                            • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                              Bernie Sanders just created a video to make a point about issues of privacy in AI (a real problem). His supporters on Muskrat's platform came for me when I quote tweeted his post saying, "at this point, Bernie’s job seems to be lobbying for Anthropic."

                              So I'm going to elaborate on the corporate psyop that has been happening since the beginning of time and how no one seems to learn their lesson.

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                              @timnitGebru I saw the clip and found it weird that he talked to the LLM is if it was a person and had actual knowledge and analytical abilities. Also the answers were so perfect that it didn't feel genuine. It would be easier to write a script of the conversation beforehand, which is what we're seeing in that clip.

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                              • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                                On another day, we'll discuss why this is happening.

                                Effective altruists and overall TESCREAL bundle billionaires have infiltrated the labor movement and journalism, offering fellowships with staggering amounts of money like they invested ridiculous amounts of money into these companies claiming to build machine gods.

                                Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution."

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                                @timnitGebru

                                Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution." - that's the literal definition of HyperNormalisation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation)

                                This documentary keeps popping into my head recently, things keep reminding me of it's thread on Technological utopianism.

                                Still highly relevant 10 years later, and maybe eerily prescient

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                                • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                                  On another day, we'll discuss why this is happening.

                                  Effective altruists and overall TESCREAL bundle billionaires have infiltrated the labor movement and journalism, offering fellowships with staggering amounts of money like they invested ridiculous amounts of money into these companies claiming to build machine gods.

                                  Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution."

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                                  @timnitGebru

                                  It's so disappointing to see politicians who should be calling out Trump BS and the simultaneous AI crowd that works to support him so oblivious to the hyperbole. The world and USA needs a younger generation of politicians that are more tech savvy and yet cynical about the industry and its players

                                  As an old guy getting played, it's clear Bernie's judgment and ability to help proactive moves against Republicans and their oligarchs has eroded or he has been compromised.

                                  Bernie's video is what I would call #trojan_ai

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                                    @timnitGebru

                                    It's so disappointing to see politicians who should be calling out Trump BS and the simultaneous AI crowd that works to support him so oblivious to the hyperbole. The world and USA needs a younger generation of politicians that are more tech savvy and yet cynical about the industry and its players

                                    As an old guy getting played, it's clear Bernie's judgment and ability to help proactive moves against Republicans and their oligarchs has eroded or he has been compromised.

                                    Bernie's video is what I would call #trojan_ai

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                                    @timnitGebru

                                    #trojan_ai in the sense that the AI discourse disguised as journalism never questions the ethics of the AI and so becomes marketing.

                                    Your Camel/Marlboro example is a good examplec of the "any publicity is good publicity" idea.

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                                    • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                                      On another day, we'll discuss why this is happening.

                                      Effective altruists and overall TESCREAL bundle billionaires have infiltrated the labor movement and journalism, offering fellowships with staggering amounts of money like they invested ridiculous amounts of money into these companies claiming to build machine gods.

                                      Money for the "problem" and money for "the solution."

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                                      @timnitGebru oh yes the ethical alternative who does so much for education that they erm… gave us access to their free elearning module about how to use one's discernment and due diligence to become "AI fluent" (not "literate", that would set the bar too high). BTW, I completed the elearning in 2 minutes using the age-old heuristic of "the longest answer in a multiple choice questionnaire is probably correct".

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                                      • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                                        Bernie Sanders just created a video to make a point about issues of privacy in AI (a real problem). His supporters on Muskrat's platform came for me when I quote tweeted his post saying, "at this point, Bernie’s job seems to be lobbying for Anthropic."

                                        So I'm going to elaborate on the corporate psyop that has been happening since the beginning of time and how no one seems to learn their lesson.

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                                        @timnitGebru Bernie lost his way years ago, and I hate how his most ardent (and white) supporters continue to alienate the fuck out of Black and Brown folks who might actually support his positions.

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                                        • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                                          Bernie has been repeating, almost verbatim, Dario Amodei's talking points, for a while now, even quote tweeting him. Amodei positions Anthropic as the ethical alternative to OpenAI just like OpenAI positioned itself as the ethical alternative to Google in 2015 and everyone ate it up. This was an article from then, the headline says that Muskrat, Thiel, Altman + friends founded an "altruistic AI venture" 🙄
                                          https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35082344

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                                          @timnitGebru Bernie, noo! 😞

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