LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware already happening in some corners of the market. I know a person who became professionally dependent on using Perplexity. They gave them a 12 months free plan, cut short to 4 then asked to pay 20€ a month. After 8 months this plan was also eliminated and the price is now 200€ a month for less than what they used to get for 20. Obviously they're in a bad place now, and Perplexity is still likely losing money over that.
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
Drug addiction tends to cut ones real world life very short no matter what fantasies it gives you.
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware I heard that's not the end game plan. Rather it is to start stealing all the good ideas created using the models and then provide better versions of those so that nobody just using a model can compete. I have no hard evidence for this alternative end game... Just speculation I heard, I think.
Do you have evidence that it is just going to be simple rent seeking?
businesses using the models will be the victims... And the public who will absorb the damage as this bubble pops.
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@lapcatsoftware But will it work? There seem to be too many labs making models of similar quality, and often it's effortless to switch between them.
@williamoconnell @lapcatsoftware
so what?
they all make a loss, and eventually need to make money -
LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware
And while they're at it they're also driving up prices of RAM so you can't do normal computing anymore even if you wanted to. -
@williamoconnell @lapcatsoftware
so what?
they all make a loss, and eventually need to make money@Doomed_Daniel Generally they aren't making a loss on inference currently, they're just spending so much more on training new models that they have a loss overall. But also some of the competition is from open source models, and the cost of inference for those is just the cost of compute, which goes down over time.
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware Never forget the immense price we all pay for the destruction of climate and drinking water! If we use them or not, the data centers destroy our environment.
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware the monopolisation of knowledge. There is a future where people are only as smart as the subscription they pay for.
Big tech wants you to forget what you know and become reliant. Using your brain is a threat to their business plan.
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@lapcatsoftware Never forget the immense price we all pay for the destruction of climate and drinking water! If we use them or not, the data centers destroy our environment.
@NatureMC @lapcatsoftware Yes. The data centers are accelerants. The billionaires and fossil fuel industry are racing to raise the temperature. They are inconsiderate. #noai, #nowaterfordatacenters
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social It's wild to me how many people ignore this; you're paying money to "do your job"? Things you could be doing without giving up control of your work output to a third party?
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@lapcatsoftware Never forget the immense price we all pay for the destruction of climate and drinking water! If we use them or not, the data centers destroy our environment.
@NatureMC @lapcatsoftware Even worse, they destroy the informed and educated populace on which any hope of meaningful democracy and liberation exists.
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@NatureMC @lapcatsoftware Even worse, they destroy the informed and educated populace on which any hope of meaningful democracy and liberation exists.
@dalias Indeed. I don't know which one is worse, climate change doesn't make a difference whom it kills (the super-rich will be protected some longer). And a worsening with more extremes and catastrophes can also kill democracies ...
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@notyourfanboy @lapcatsoftware
The first one is free. The second is on me.
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware when I use Google the first answer is always AI. So I then go down te other answers to see if it was correct.
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@lapcatsoftware when I use Google the first answer is always AI. So I then go down te other answers to see if it was correct.
@John_Loader @lapcatsoftware You can disable the AI and save energy emissions.
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@lapcatsoftware the monopolisation of knowledge. There is a future where people are only as smart as the subscription they pay for.
Big tech wants you to forget what you know and become reliant. Using your brain is a threat to their business plan.
@brianwdouglas @lapcatsoftware Sites like stackoverflow.com are already being starved of content, making AI more essential.
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware Yeah, well, the "good" news is that plan won't work, because LLMs don't work.
Of course, we're all still going to have to pay the price of the grift, so that doesn't help any.
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware #AI is #clankers
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware this seems likely enough.
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LLM access is relatively cheap now because the LLM vendors are discounting their price at a massive loss, subsidized by VC, in order to get you addicted and to drive as much skilled human labor as possible out of the workforce permanently.
The goal is monopolization, and if they’re successful, you’ll see monopolistic pricing in the future.
@lapcatsoftware I feel compelled to mention there are models you can self-host. There are even models where the architecture is available under a permissive license, so you can tweak / tune / retrain / distill or whatever beyond mere prompting.
I don't recommend or defend that approach. I think there are still problems, ethical and other.
But, it could be a way to prevent "vendor lock-in" with your LLM usage.
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