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  3. A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    @danneau I've noticed how some high profile accounts have moved to Patreon...

    For the two accounts you mention, maybe you could add them to your RSS feed, so that you can (1) unsubscribe (2) don't give traffic to Substack?

    And tell them about this...

    I think these objections have worked for other creators... like Anne Helen Petersen of Culture Studies (one of the most visible / famous Substack newsletters back in the day)

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    @_elena
    Thank you!

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      @Torithom ABSOLUTELY!

      I had 2 Substack newsletters years ago and I simply exported my subscriber list and moved to Ghost. It took a few minutes. Easy peasy. That's why I say there are ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSES.

      Ghost even offers a free concierge service for moving subscribers (incl. paid) off of Substack: https://ghost.org/move-to-ghost/

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      @_elena @Torithom @camless I suspect there is a small business model here; $50 to handle it for the folks for whom this feels too complicated (easy for *us*, but not them).

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      • wtl@mastodon.socialW wtl@mastodon.social

        @_elena @Torithom @camless I suspect there is a small business model here; $50 to handle it for the folks for whom this feels too complicated (easy for *us*, but not them).

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        @WTL Or we address the structure that leads to so many platforms turning sour

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        • torithom@theforkiverse.comT torithom@theforkiverse.com

          @WTL Or we address the structure that leads to so many platforms turning sour

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          @Torithom Off the top of my head, I'd say for-profit, VC backed social media will always chase all the money, so will take anyone as customers, no matter how distastefully fascist they are.

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          • wtl@mastodon.socialW wtl@mastodon.social

            @Torithom Off the top of my head, I'd say for-profit, VC backed social media will always chase all the money, so will take anyone as customers, no matter how distastefully fascist they are.

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            @WTL yes, and is there a track record of running not for profit then changing model later on? Like with OpenAI? Meaning there needs to be more mechanisms shown from the beginning for added assurity when committing to a new platform.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @Synthyx @_elena

              the topic here is substack which platforms actual literal nazis. the swastika prominently shown. this whole "you use that word too much" is a weird hill to die on when dealing with genuine nazis my friend

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              @benroyce @_elena

              Think you missed my point comrade

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

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                @_elena

                we're policing our own platform, demanding tptb unNazi
                don't take away the income of many excellent journalists and progressive voices because you think we can't manage our own Nazis

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                • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                  @benroyce @_elena

                  Think you missed my point comrade

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                  @Synthyx @_elena

                  i deeply apologize. you are totally right

                  you winningly reply guyed about people complaining about nazis- which, as we all know, complaining about nazis is the *real* problem

                  not at all is the problem, like, you know, the actual bona fide nazis on substack?

                  😂

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @Synthyx @_elena

                    i deeply apologize. you are totally right

                    you winningly reply guyed about people complaining about nazis- which, as we all know, complaining about nazis is the *real* problem

                    not at all is the problem, like, you know, the actual bona fide nazis on substack?

                    😂

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                    @benroyce

                    If you actually read what I said you would know that I was referencing how everyone on this platform calls everything Nazi or Fascist....lol

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                    • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                      @benroyce

                      If you actually read what I said you would know that I was referencing how everyone on this platform calls everything Nazi or Fascist....lol

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                      @benroyce

                      Another thing to mention

                      Why do you all see 1 bad actor and instantly call something a Nazi bar? Some people there are just tryna make some cash no?

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                      • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                        @benroyce

                        If you actually read what I said you would know that I was referencing how everyone on this platform calls everything Nazi or Fascist....lol

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                        @Synthyx

                        so you replied to elena's post, about substack, which platforms nazis, to make a comment that has nothing to do with what you replied to?

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                        • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                          @benroyce

                          Another thing to mention

                          Why do you all see 1 bad actor and instantly call something a Nazi bar? Some people there are just tryna make some cash no?

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                          @Synthyx

                          well yes, the saying goes that if you go in a bar and there are nazis there, it's a nazi bar

                          do you know why that's a well known saying?

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @Synthyx

                            well yes, the saying goes that if you go in a bar and there are nazis there, it's a nazi bar

                            do you know why that's a well known saying?

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                            @benroyce

                            Because 1 bad actor is using something...it's bad now?

                            Nazis use encrypted communications, let's boycott those too then. No more matrix, xmpp, signal, etc because the Nazis use them!!!

                            You can't hate a platform because of the people mate, ignore the oddballs and use the platform for what it's meant for

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                            • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                              @benroyce

                              Because 1 bad actor is using something...it's bad now?

                              Nazis use encrypted communications, let's boycott those too then. No more matrix, xmpp, signal, etc because the Nazis use them!!!

                              You can't hate a platform because of the people mate, ignore the oddballs and use the platform for what it's meant for

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                              @Synthyx

                              I brush my teeth. Nazis brush their teeth. Therefore I am Nazi

                              Logic 101 fail

                              I hang out where Nazis hang out. Therefore I'm a Nazi or I shoild get the fuck out

                              Logic 101 win

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @Synthyx

                                I brush my teeth. Nazis brush their teeth. Therefore I am Nazi

                                Logic 101 fail

                                I hang out where Nazis hang out. Therefore I'm a Nazi or I shoild get the fuck out

                                Logic 101 win

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                                @benroyce
                                What I said would also go to your little "logic 101 win then"

                                I use xmpp, I'm not a Nazi, Nazis use xmpp, I am using the same software and advocating for others to use it. Public mucs have Nazis because its encrypted and they are scared.

                                When you add your own rules to how something works you really start to break down your own argument....

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                                • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                                  @benroyce
                                  What I said would also go to your little "logic 101 win then"

                                  I use xmpp, I'm not a Nazi, Nazis use xmpp, I am using the same software and advocating for others to use it. Public mucs have Nazis because its encrypted and they are scared.

                                  When you add your own rules to how something works you really start to break down your own argument....

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                                  @Synthyx

                                  You win! Using a tool that is the same kind of tool someone else uses is exactly the same thing as hanging out with them in a bar. Damn have I have been schooled

                                  😂

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @Synthyx

                                    You win! Using a tool that is the same kind of tool someone else uses is exactly the same thing as hanging out with them in a bar. Damn have I have been schooled

                                    😂

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                                    @benroyce

                                    Is substack not a tool friend?

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