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  3. A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

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  • torithom@theforkiverse.comT torithom@theforkiverse.com

    @WTL Or we address the structure that leads to so many platforms turning sour

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    #100

    @Torithom Off the top of my head, I'd say for-profit, VC backed social media will always chase all the money, so will take anyone as customers, no matter how distastefully fascist they are.

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    • wtl@mastodon.socialW wtl@mastodon.social

      @Torithom Off the top of my head, I'd say for-profit, VC backed social media will always chase all the money, so will take anyone as customers, no matter how distastefully fascist they are.

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      #101

      @WTL yes, and is there a track record of running not for profit then changing model later on? Like with OpenAI? Meaning there needs to be more mechanisms shown from the beginning for added assurity when committing to a new platform.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @Synthyx @_elena

        the topic here is substack which platforms actual literal nazis. the swastika prominently shown. this whole "you use that word too much" is a weird hill to die on when dealing with genuine nazis my friend

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        #102

        @benroyce @_elena

        Think you missed my point comrade

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

          We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

          No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

          There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

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          #103

          @_elena

          we're policing our own platform, demanding tptb unNazi
          don't take away the income of many excellent journalists and progressive voices because you think we can't manage our own Nazis

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          • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

            @benroyce @_elena

            Think you missed my point comrade

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            #104

            @Synthyx @_elena

            i deeply apologize. you are totally right

            you winningly reply guyed about people complaining about nazis- which, as we all know, complaining about nazis is the *real* problem

            not at all is the problem, like, you know, the actual bona fide nazis on substack?

            😂

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @Synthyx @_elena

              i deeply apologize. you are totally right

              you winningly reply guyed about people complaining about nazis- which, as we all know, complaining about nazis is the *real* problem

              not at all is the problem, like, you know, the actual bona fide nazis on substack?

              😂

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              #105

              @benroyce

              If you actually read what I said you would know that I was referencing how everyone on this platform calls everything Nazi or Fascist....lol

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              • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                @benroyce

                If you actually read what I said you would know that I was referencing how everyone on this platform calls everything Nazi or Fascist....lol

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                @benroyce

                Another thing to mention

                Why do you all see 1 bad actor and instantly call something a Nazi bar? Some people there are just tryna make some cash no?

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                • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                  @benroyce

                  If you actually read what I said you would know that I was referencing how everyone on this platform calls everything Nazi or Fascist....lol

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                  @Synthyx

                  so you replied to elena's post, about substack, which platforms nazis, to make a comment that has nothing to do with what you replied to?

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                  • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                    @benroyce

                    Another thing to mention

                    Why do you all see 1 bad actor and instantly call something a Nazi bar? Some people there are just tryna make some cash no?

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                    #108

                    @Synthyx

                    well yes, the saying goes that if you go in a bar and there are nazis there, it's a nazi bar

                    do you know why that's a well known saying?

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @Synthyx

                      well yes, the saying goes that if you go in a bar and there are nazis there, it's a nazi bar

                      do you know why that's a well known saying?

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                      @benroyce

                      Because 1 bad actor is using something...it's bad now?

                      Nazis use encrypted communications, let's boycott those too then. No more matrix, xmpp, signal, etc because the Nazis use them!!!

                      You can't hate a platform because of the people mate, ignore the oddballs and use the platform for what it's meant for

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                      • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                        @benroyce

                        Because 1 bad actor is using something...it's bad now?

                        Nazis use encrypted communications, let's boycott those too then. No more matrix, xmpp, signal, etc because the Nazis use them!!!

                        You can't hate a platform because of the people mate, ignore the oddballs and use the platform for what it's meant for

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                        #110

                        @Synthyx

                        I brush my teeth. Nazis brush their teeth. Therefore I am Nazi

                        Logic 101 fail

                        I hang out where Nazis hang out. Therefore I'm a Nazi or I shoild get the fuck out

                        Logic 101 win

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @Synthyx

                          I brush my teeth. Nazis brush their teeth. Therefore I am Nazi

                          Logic 101 fail

                          I hang out where Nazis hang out. Therefore I'm a Nazi or I shoild get the fuck out

                          Logic 101 win

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                          @benroyce
                          What I said would also go to your little "logic 101 win then"

                          I use xmpp, I'm not a Nazi, Nazis use xmpp, I am using the same software and advocating for others to use it. Public mucs have Nazis because its encrypted and they are scared.

                          When you add your own rules to how something works you really start to break down your own argument....

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                          • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                            @benroyce
                            What I said would also go to your little "logic 101 win then"

                            I use xmpp, I'm not a Nazi, Nazis use xmpp, I am using the same software and advocating for others to use it. Public mucs have Nazis because its encrypted and they are scared.

                            When you add your own rules to how something works you really start to break down your own argument....

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                            #112

                            @Synthyx

                            You win! Using a tool that is the same kind of tool someone else uses is exactly the same thing as hanging out with them in a bar. Damn have I have been schooled

                            😂

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @Synthyx

                              You win! Using a tool that is the same kind of tool someone else uses is exactly the same thing as hanging out with them in a bar. Damn have I have been schooled

                              😂

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                              #113

                              @benroyce

                              Is substack not a tool friend?

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