With legislation on rail ticketing due from the European Commission this spring, how can policymakers - who never normally see the problem - be shown it in a fun way?
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@jon Would you have special bonus points for finding a solution when you don't speak the language of the country you're going from or to?
@brunogirin We can add that as a criterion as well, yes. Albeit with quite a low weighting.
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With legislation on rail ticketing due from the European Commission this spring, how can policymakers - who never normally see the problem - be shown it in a fun way?
The idea: the European Railway Ticketing Championship
https://jonworth.eu/a-silly-idea-to-prove-a-point-the-european-railway-ticketing-championship/Have a read and let me know what you think!
@jon could be fun to watch.
But wouldn’t it take a too technical aspect?
“we need a better trainline/protocol/norm for ticket distribution” and it would undermine the need to force all the operators to transport passenger no matter what company was delayed, where you bought the ticket and of how many parts it’s made of.
(maybe I’m pushing a specific vision of passenger rights)
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@jon could be fun to watch.
But wouldn’t it take a too technical aspect?
“we need a better trainline/protocol/norm for ticket distribution” and it would undermine the need to force all the operators to transport passenger no matter what company was delayed, where you bought the ticket and of how many parts it’s made of.
(maybe I’m pushing a specific vision of passenger rights)
@tristramg the general point I want to underline: this is a total mess now, even for SIMPLE cross border journeys. That point is disputed by Community of European Railways, and some Member States. I just want that message hammered home.
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With legislation on rail ticketing due from the European Commission this spring, how can policymakers - who never normally see the problem - be shown it in a fun way?
The idea: the European Railway Ticketing Championship
https://jonworth.eu/a-silly-idea-to-prove-a-point-the-european-railway-ticketing-championship/Have a read and let me know what you think!
@jon
That's a great and fun idea :). The winning team should of course get an interrail ticket each. I'd be happy to contribute to croud fund the costs of setting this up. -
With legislation on rail ticketing due from the European Commission this spring, how can policymakers - who never normally see the problem - be shown it in a fun way?
The idea: the European Railway Ticketing Championship
https://jonworth.eu/a-silly-idea-to-prove-a-point-the-european-railway-ticketing-championship/Have a read and let me know what you think!
@jon I’d like to think I’d be pretty good at that, but in reality I’m probably hopelessly useless once Bahn.de no longer works
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@jon I’d like to think I’d be pretty good at that, but in reality I’m probably hopelessly useless once Bahn.de no longer works
@q You're not going to be alone in that
And one of the things I am going to have to include is things where bahn(dot)de cannot plan you a route! -
@tristramg the general point I want to underline: this is a total mess now, even for SIMPLE cross border journeys. That point is disputed by Community of European Railways, and some Member States. I just want that message hammered home.
@jon ok, fair enough
I’ll still worry that they’ll come up with a technical solution that will never work, but at least if they acknowledge the current situation it will be a progress -
With legislation on rail ticketing due from the European Commission this spring, how can policymakers - who never normally see the problem - be shown it in a fun way?
The idea: the European Railway Ticketing Championship
https://jonworth.eu/a-silly-idea-to-prove-a-point-the-european-railway-ticketing-championship/Have a read and let me know what you think!
@jon I laughed. Cute idea. FWIW
(To make playing easy, fast and to maximize participation)
Collect actual experiences in a database. Number them. Allocate points according to criteria you decide.
Assign routes to participants randomly.
Press play = reveal results.
Repeat with player with worst score being eliminated.
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@jon ok, fair enough
I’ll still worry that they’ll come up with a technical solution that will never work, but at least if they acknowledge the current situation it will be a progress@jon by the way, I’m trying to find out if the Barcelona>Corodova the 02/08/26 at 15:16 will ever run (it disappears if you look on a shorter horizon) and whether I should buy a SpainPass.
Can you hold the competition soon?
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With legislation on rail ticketing due from the European Commission this spring, how can policymakers - who never normally see the problem - be shown it in a fun way?
The idea: the European Railway Ticketing Championship
https://jonworth.eu/a-silly-idea-to-prove-a-point-the-european-railway-ticketing-championship/Have a read and let me know what you think!
@jon do you need volunteers? i am in!
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@jon do you need volunteers? i am in!
@maartje You were one of the people I had in mind as a participant, yes
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@q You're not going to be alone in that
And one of the things I am going to have to include is things where bahn(dot)de cannot plan you a route! -
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With legislation on rail ticketing due from the European Commission this spring, how can policymakers - who never normally see the problem - be shown it in a fun way?
The idea: the European Railway Ticketing Championship
https://jonworth.eu/a-silly-idea-to-prove-a-point-the-european-railway-ticketing-championship/Have a read and let me know what you think!
@jon Put me down for helping out or participating…
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@q You're not going to be alone in that
And one of the things I am going to have to include is things where bahn(dot)de cannot plan you a route! -
With legislation on rail ticketing due from the European Commission this spring, how can policymakers - who never normally see the problem - be shown it in a fun way?
The idea: the European Railway Ticketing Championship
https://jonworth.eu/a-silly-idea-to-prove-a-point-the-european-railway-ticketing-championship/Have a read and let me know what you think!
@jon Excellent idea. You’d have to hold it in Inari, though.
(Yes, that was a timetabling championship. I guess ticketing is the new timetabling.)
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With legislation on rail ticketing due from the European Commission this spring, how can policymakers - who never normally see the problem - be shown it in a fun way?
The idea: the European Railway Ticketing Championship
https://jonworth.eu/a-silly-idea-to-prove-a-point-the-european-railway-ticketing-championship/Have a read and let me know what you think!
@jon next level should be "here are a bunch of ticket machines you have 30 seconds to book a journey"
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@jon next level should be "here are a bunch of ticket machines you have 30 seconds to book a journey"
@maartje Like that old TV show "supermarket sweep" - ticket machine sweep. Platinum level: Paris terminals
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@maartje Like that old TV show "supermarket sweep" - ticket machine sweep. Platinum level: Paris terminals
@jon you need a ticket from TER station to TGV over RER to TGV to TER in other region, you hold 1 local 1 national discount card you have 1 minute
