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Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

    Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

    There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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    @cwebber how does this affect Linux distributions? What if a distro is too small and doesn’t have the means?

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    • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

      @Notme @cwebber

      I am, for the most part.

      notme@ohai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber then you could stop lecturing people on social media. Also, most of what you said about kids under this post applies to addults as well. If kids are “like this” today, maybe it's the grown ups that are to blame. Sorry if I’m being harsh but this comment isn’t helping anyone get anything done 🙁

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      • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

        @cwebber How in the absolute shit are they expecting to enforce such a ridiculous regulation? Or is that not something politicians care about?

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        @StarkRG @cwebber
        Possibly through some kind of app store that requires you to log in to install programs...

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        • notme@ohai.socialN notme@ohai.social

          @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber then you could stop lecturing people on social media. Also, most of what you said about kids under this post applies to addults as well. If kids are “like this” today, maybe it's the grown ups that are to blame. Sorry if I’m being harsh but this comment isn’t helping anyone get anything done 🙁

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          @Notme @cwebber

          it is food for thought.

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

            Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

            There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

            mwt@mastodon.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
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            @cwebber there was a time when the entire Internet was rabidly against ads too. Good times.

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

              Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

              There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

              earl@mast.john1126.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cwebber

              “No personal information is communicated that you could use to identify somebody; it’s just an age bracket signal”

              Does anyone believe that?

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                @FelisCatusDomesticus They're too disempowered to feel like they can do something about it, which is a different thing

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                @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus The youth never had an internet that wasn't corporate oligarch-owned extremist scam garbage. So I totally get it if they don't care. A lot of us olds are nostalgic for an Internet that hasn't existed for a long time.

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                • karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.social

                  @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber And how should they without adults im their lifes teaching them. The Art of Introducing Kids to Networked Turing Machines...

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                  @KarlHeinzHasliP @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber Not just that - computer design today emphasizes hiding how things work. Which gets annoying real fast but also doesn't lend itself to encouraging people to look deeper.

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                  • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                    @demofox @gorlak @cwebber that stuff was literally censored when I was in school, in violation of the 1st amendment, but that was always a joke anyways

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                    #73

                    @fluffykittycat @gorlak @cwebber so true. There used to be a great Wiccan search engine avatarsearch.com, it was killed like 15 years ago with the usual reasons for censorship (something is probably squating in its place now). The world is a worse place without it.

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                      Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                      There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                      #74

                      This younger generation will definitely find a way to communicate online - WAY smarter than the politicians 😉.

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                      • fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.deF fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.de

                        @cwebber seems to me that this is evil, but a lesser evil than having to prove my age (actually my identity) to every site on the internet (which will then be pawned)

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                        @fishidwardrobe @cwebber

                        Actually its a greater evil since one login will access everything rather than having to do lots. Centralisation of anything is the worst form of control there is. Its one reason Mastodon itself is defederated.

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                        • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                          @RandamuMaki @neatchee @cwebber

                          bertrand russel

                          the problem of china

                          essay, 1921

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                          @FelisCatusDomesticus @RandamuMaki @neatchee @cwebber

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                          The Problem of China

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                          (www.gutenberg.org)

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                          • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                            @cwebber information is widely available in society.. kids simply don't care. they are more interested in Bad Bunny's superbowl performance than they are about higher issues. This is nothing new. Young people's trivial minds. It's a form of self-disempowerment. A phase everyone must pass through on the way to mature adulthood. That having been said, this proposed law is ludicrous.

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                            @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber your posts come off as very ageist and judgemental. I'm pleasantly surprised at how the younger generation understands technology, social media and AI in a way that older generations do not. Perhaps there's a larger portion of the younger generations that are not within your view.

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                            • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                              @cwebber I dont observe anyone dropping corporate social media en masse or cutting ties with the megacorps that actively disempower them and have for decades

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                              @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber I don't observe that either, *regardless of age or generation*. I don't know why you expect that specifically of mine (and the other "younger generations", hopefully excluding gen beta) while we're mostly watching our parents believe every bot post on Facebook

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                              • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

                                @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus The youth never had an internet that wasn't corporate oligarch-owned extremist scam garbage. So I totally get it if they don't care. A lot of us olds are nostalgic for an Internet that hasn't existed for a long time.

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                                @txtx @cwebber

                                True.

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                                • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

                                  @KarlHeinzHasliP @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber Not just that - computer design today emphasizes hiding how things work. Which gets annoying real fast but also doesn't lend itself to encouraging people to look deeper.

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                                  @Epic_Null @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber

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                                  • karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.social

                                    @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber And how should they without adults im their lifes teaching them. The Art of Introducing Kids to Networked Turing Machines...

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                                    @KarlHeinzHasliP @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber this, I'm really tired of older generations complaining about how stupid mine is for not learning the things they refused to teach us. I don't usually quote Blink 182 but I think they summed it up pretty well with "if we're fucked up, you're to blame". Raise your damn kids, teach other people's kids as much as you can get away with, and you might find that we had that potential all along but we were fucking neglected by the generations before ours

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                                    • raphaelmorgan@disabled.socialR raphaelmorgan@disabled.social

                                      @KarlHeinzHasliP @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber this, I'm really tired of older generations complaining about how stupid mine is for not learning the things they refused to teach us. I don't usually quote Blink 182 but I think they summed it up pretty well with "if we're fucked up, you're to blame". Raise your damn kids, teach other people's kids as much as you can get away with, and you might find that we had that potential all along but we were fucking neglected by the generations before ours

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                                      @raphaelmorgan @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                                        Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                                        There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                                        @cwebber Reading through the bill has been interesting
                                        If it passes, it seems that pretty much anyone behind a Linux distro will be bankrupted if they dare to enter Colorado
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                                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                          Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                                          Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                                          There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                                          @cwebber how would this even be possible for freedom-respecting operating systems? would it just make every GNU/Linux distro illegal unless its package manager implemented a pointless and trivial-to-bypass age check based on putting birth date in gecos (or something like that)?
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