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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • apicultor@hachyderm.ioA apicultor@hachyderm.io

    @fdroidorg
    Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

    Until then, #Obtainium.

    @marcprux

    fdroidorg@floss.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    fdroidorg@floss.social
    wrote last edited by
    #60

    @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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    • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

      Thank you for your support!

      fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF This user is from outside of this forum
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      fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
      wrote last edited by
      #61
      @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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      • apicultor@hachyderm.ioA apicultor@hachyderm.io

        @fdroidorg
        Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

        Until then, #Obtainium.

        @marcprux

        fdroidorg@floss.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        fdroidorg@floss.social
        wrote last edited by
        #62

        @apicultor If you have questions why not drop by and ask directly? https://f-droid.org/about/#contact Posts from 2021 and half-truths on forums won't give you the information you need.

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        • nomadmisha@mastodon.worldN nomadmisha@mastodon.world

          @fdroidorg @marcprux
          🫱Ubuntu Touch

          m8947@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          m8947@mastodon.social
          wrote last edited by
          #63

          @nomadmisha @fdroidorg @marcprux @ubports
          told'ya google are evil, zionists evil. resists! 💪

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          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

            @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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            wrote last edited by
            #64

            @fdroidorg
            Have you addressed the points made by the creator of #Wireguard regarding the security of your build infra?

            Link Preview Image
            wireguard inclusion policy violation (auto-updates w/o explicit user consent) (#3110) · Issues · F-Droid / Data · GitLab

            Per https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Inclusion_Policy/ The software must not download additional executable binary files (e.g. addons, auto-updates, etc.) without explicit user consent....

            favicon

            GitLab (gitlab.com)

            Supply chain security is super-duper underrated. Thanks for the spotlight, Jia Tan!

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            • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

              Thank you for your support!

              denizenn@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              denizenn@mastodon.social
              wrote last edited by
              #65

              @fdroidorg @marcprux Contacted the Department of Justice and the US Federal Trade Commission with a request of acknowledgement from both. 👌

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              • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                Thank you for your support!

                simx72@defcon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                simx72@defcon.social
                wrote last edited by
                #66

                @fdroidorg @marcprux will this affect lineage phones? (or any other roms)

                Directly or indirectly?

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                • nateb@mastodon.thenewoil.orgN nateb@mastodon.thenewoil.org shared this topic
                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

                  nathanael@exquisite.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  nathanael@exquisite.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #67

                  @fdroidorg @marcprux why is @GrapheneOS not listed? this feels a little bit like fearmongering

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                  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                    Thank you for your support!

                    juh@hostsharing.coopJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #68

                    @marcprux @fdroidorg There ist no freedom in capitalism.

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                    • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                      Thank you for your support!

                      lepinejpaul@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      lepinejpaul@mastodon.social
                      wrote last edited by
                      #69

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux : pour ma part, j'ai un fairphone 4 avec e/os installé, avec F-droid dedans depuis quelques années déjà et cette info ne me surprend nullement.

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                      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

                        apnoe_soeren@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #70

                        @fdroidorg @marcprux #e_mydata e/os is one of the aswers.

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                        • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                          Thank you for your support!

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                          dei@is.nota.live
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                          #71

                          @techlore please make a video about it!

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                          • izzyondroid@floss.socialI izzyondroid@floss.social

                            @fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid – but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

                            This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

                            celeduc@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #72

                            @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg @marcprux it is really surprising that the @EUCommission is okay with Google locking down our devices, digital sovereignty what-what?

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                            • fynn@digitalcourage.socialF fynn@digitalcourage.social

                              @fdroidorg @marcprux
                              I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
                              Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
                              Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #73

                              @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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                              • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                Thank you for your support!

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                                tourma@tech.lgbt
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                                #74

                                @fdroidorg
                                Ugh, looks like I might be using /e/OS sooner than expected.

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                                • fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
                                  2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
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                                  @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

                                  The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
                                  1) Spyware and adware
                                  2) Spyware and adware
                                  3) Spyware and adware
                                  4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
                                  5) Spyware and adware
                                  6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

                                  I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

                                  Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

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                                  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

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                                    moin@gruene.social
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                                    #76

                                    @fdroidorg
                                    Thank you for your amazing work. For me its time to switch to Linux in under 200 days.

                                    @marcprux

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                                    • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                                      @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

                                      The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
                                      1) Spyware and adware
                                      2) Spyware and adware
                                      3) Spyware and adware
                                      4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
                                      5) Spyware and adware
                                      6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

                                      I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

                                      Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

                                      fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
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                                      @2something @fdroidorg @marcprux 1. I believe that it's specifically about stalkerware that gets distributed as sideloaded, anonymously signed APKs to avoid detection by Google Play Protect. I think this change will have a significant positive impact on the stalkerware market and result in a reduction in technology-facilitated intimate partner violence, making it a worthy tradeoff. Most open-source projects are not developed anonymously, and if developers don't want to get a certificate, nothing stops a third-party marketplace like F-Droid from building a signed, distributable APK for them. The same people complaining about this have already built the solution. "I'm altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further" just feels entitled and missing the point entirely.
                                      2. I would specifically get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, because I want to run free and open source software on it, as I already have. I don't want other people tampering with my phone and requiring messing with the bootloader and performing a factory reset (which i would notice) to sideload untrusted apps is a security feature I want.

                                      If you don't like it, try coming up with a better solution, or you know, try doing some work with victims of stalking by intimate partners to realize it is actually a much bigger problem for them than whatever spying Google Play Services is doing. Have a good day.
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                                      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                        Thank you for your support!

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #78

                                        @fdroidorg i hope @shiftphones has planned for this already

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                                        • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                          Thank you for your support!

                                          yianiris@kafeneio.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #79

                                          We don't have representatives, we live in capitalism. All those elected to run government represent multinational industries and their federation, banks and financial institutions. We are their enemy, they are not going to listen.

                                          Unless....

                                          We force them to listen

                                          @fdroidorg @marcprux

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