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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • zetabeta@mastodon.socialZ zetabeta@mastodon.social

    @fdroidorg @marcprux
    i don't like to downplay f-droid efforts, or spread pessimism.

    still, my unfortunate opinion. android starts to be lost cause, too much gooish google in it, like there is apple control in apple devices.

    it is not just closed google components, it is android ecosystem and api's in general. alphabet inc controls android too much.

    of course, delaying destruction of open android is still beneficial for short term.

    kilgoretrout@fedi.idesmi.euK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #54

    @zetabeta
    My phone runs Android, my parents' too.
    Google is going to prevent us from installing what we want on devices where we had been able to until now.
    Devices that we bought and that will still be perfectly functioning 5 years from now.
    Hence why this is a fight worth fighting.
    @fdroidorg @marcprux

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    • ttfka_tay0@fosstodon.orgT ttfka_tay0@fosstodon.org

      @fdroidorg @marcprux
      How will this effect LineageOS and other android alternatives?

      fdroidorg@floss.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #55

      @TTFKA_Tay0 To be fair, they are not alternatives, they use the same code, and are at the mercy of Google when it comes to releasing such code. Otherwise, once installed, Lineage and other Android distributions can give the freedom back to their users to install what they want.

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      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

        Thank you for your support!

        rpla@masto.esR This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #56

        @fdroidorg @marcprux
        Si china puede hacer un clon de Android, ¿Acaso no puede hacerlo Europa?
        ¿Para cuando un Linux para dispositivos móviles?
        ¿hasta cuando seguiremos siendo vasallos de las multinacionales norteamericanas?
        ¿Para cuando nuestra delcaración de Soberania Digital?

        ¡Sin Soberania Digital no hay libertad, independencia ni democrácia!

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        • alandvalonline@mastodon.socialA alandvalonline@mastodon.social

          @fdroidorg Maybe a Federated Fone?

          aka_quant_noir@hcommons.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #57

          @alandvalonline @fdroidorg

          I also wish for this. Linux drivers for legacy phone hardware, a Chromebook level of simplicity for installing or running variant UX's, maybe from a removable card or USB stick... A secure OS like Tails... Siloed apps... I don't want corporate access to any data.
          ..

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          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

            Thank you for your support!

            jmjm@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            jmjm@mstdn.social
            wrote last edited by
            #58

            @fdroidorg @marcprux

            unfortunately my country has crashed. Abort, retry, fail?

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            • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

              Thank you for your support!

              apicultor@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #59

              @fdroidorg
              Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

              Until then, #Obtainium.

              @marcprux

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              • apicultor@hachyderm.ioA apicultor@hachyderm.io

                @fdroidorg
                Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                Until then, #Obtainium.

                @marcprux

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                fdroidorg@floss.social
                wrote last edited by
                #60

                @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

                  fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #61
                  @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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                  • apicultor@hachyderm.ioA apicultor@hachyderm.io

                    @fdroidorg
                    Did you secure your build environment yet? Why must you re-sign everything instead of using signed artifacts from developers?

                    Until then, #Obtainium.

                    @marcprux

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                    fdroidorg@floss.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #62

                    @apicultor If you have questions why not drop by and ask directly? https://f-droid.org/about/#contact Posts from 2021 and half-truths on forums won't give you the information you need.

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                    • nomadmisha@mastodon.worldN nomadmisha@mastodon.world

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux
                      🫱Ubuntu Touch

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #63

                      @nomadmisha @fdroidorg @marcprux @ubports
                      told'ya google are evil, zionists evil. resists! 💪

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                      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                        @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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                        #64

                        @fdroidorg
                        Have you addressed the points made by the creator of #Wireguard regarding the security of your build infra?

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                        wireguard inclusion policy violation (auto-updates w/o explicit user consent) (#3110) · Issues · F-Droid / Data · GitLab

                        Per https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Inclusion_Policy/ The software must not download additional executable binary files (e.g. addons, auto-updates, etc.) without explicit user consent....

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                        GitLab (gitlab.com)

                        Supply chain security is super-duper underrated. Thanks for the spotlight, Jia Tan!

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                        • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                          Thank you for your support!

                          denizenn@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #65

                          @fdroidorg @marcprux Contacted the Department of Justice and the US Federal Trade Commission with a request of acknowledgement from both. 👌

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                          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            simx72@defcon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
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                            @fdroidorg @marcprux will this affect lineage phones? (or any other roms)

                            Directly or indirectly?

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                            • nateb@mastodon.thenewoil.orgN nateb@mastodon.thenewoil.org shared this topic
                            • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                              Thank you for your support!

                              nathanael@exquisite.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @fdroidorg @marcprux why is @GrapheneOS not listed? this feels a little bit like fearmongering

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                              • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                Thank you for your support!

                                juh@hostsharing.coopJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                juh@hostsharing.coop
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                                #68

                                @marcprux @fdroidorg There ist no freedom in capitalism.

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                                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

                                  lepinejpaul@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  lepinejpaul@mastodon.social
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #69

                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux : pour ma part, j'ai un fairphone 4 avec e/os installé, avec F-droid dedans depuis quelques années déjà et cette info ne me surprend nullement.

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                                  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

                                    apnoe_soeren@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    apnoe_soeren@mastodon.social
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #70

                                    @fdroidorg @marcprux #e_mydata e/os is one of the aswers.

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                                    • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                      Thank you for your support!

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                                      dei@is.nota.live
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                                      @techlore please make a video about it!

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                                      • izzyondroid@floss.socialI izzyondroid@floss.social

                                        @fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid – but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

                                        This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

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                                        #72

                                        @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg @marcprux it is really surprising that the @EUCommission is okay with Google locking down our devices, digital sovereignty what-what?

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                                        • fynn@digitalcourage.socialF fynn@digitalcourage.social

                                          @fdroidorg @marcprux
                                          I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
                                          Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
                                          Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #73

                                          @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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