Canon behavior from meta, tbh
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@MikeElgan/116628156172886406
Canon behavior from meta, tbh
xAI manages to have a worse ratio than them although with less invested they have lost less.
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Context there was contrasting meta's plans which it describes as making consumer AI that helps people with daily things, and for some people those daily things are curing disease, and for others its shopping. But the answer was in response to an investor asking about shopping because uh that's the thing that makes money. This strategy sorta makes sense given their consumer surfaces, but at the end of the line of reasoning where you plug the surge protector back into itself, you gotta wonder how many people are going to find renting a shopping bot from the ad company to shop in the ad company's store based on the ad companies ads a little cyclical.
"The last digital capital revolution was targeted ads. The next digital capital revolution is to rent a robot to look at the ads"
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"The last digital capital revolution was targeted ads. The next digital capital revolution is to rent a robot to look at the ads"
So this was clear from the very start, that structurally the business model relies on making the web an incomprehensible mess to force chatbot usage as the only remaining viable source of information. But now that we're in the "agentic" swing of things, that language is just becoming more or less text in the ad copy: "get your agent to go out there in the wasteland of the former web and get you answers" (not mentioning who made the web into a wasteland)
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Zuck, 2026 Q1 earnings call: "our plan is to make an AI that's really good at shopping"
@jonny wonder how many rungs down the facebook ladder you'd have to go before you get to someone that actually ever shops and doesn't have their assistant/wife/nanny/housekeeper do it.
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So this was clear from the very start, that structurally the business model relies on making the web an incomprehensible mess to force chatbot usage as the only remaining viable source of information. But now that we're in the "agentic" swing of things, that language is just becoming more or less text in the ad copy: "get your agent to go out there in the wasteland of the former web and get you answers" (not mentioning who made the web into a wasteland)
@jonny We need to make cloisters.
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So this was clear from the very start, that structurally the business model relies on making the web an incomprehensible mess to force chatbot usage as the only remaining viable source of information. But now that we're in the "agentic" swing of things, that language is just becoming more or less text in the ad copy: "get your agent to go out there in the wasteland of the former web and get you answers" (not mentioning who made the web into a wasteland)
Yep
eclexic (@theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social)
@tante@tldr.nettime.org I am pretty sure their ideal world, and the ideal world of all these companies, is to have their chatbot intercede twice in _every_ communication. It should change your outputs to remove nuance from your meaning, and then expand it so the entropy goes too low for a person to stand reading it. So, others must summarise with a bot. A second chance to inject what they want. They want us to feel small if we don't use it to produce, and to feel overwhelmed if we don't use it to consume.
Mastodon 🐘 (mstdn.social)
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"The last digital capital revolution was targeted ads. The next digital capital revolution is to rent a robot to look at the ads"
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So this was clear from the very start, that structurally the business model relies on making the web an incomprehensible mess to force chatbot usage as the only remaining viable source of information. But now that we're in the "agentic" swing of things, that language is just becoming more or less text in the ad copy: "get your agent to go out there in the wasteland of the former web and get you answers" (not mentioning who made the web into a wasteland)
@jonny
Future ads will look like little noise PNGs, densly encoding information designed to confuse "agents". -
So this was clear from the very start, that structurally the business model relies on making the web an incomprehensible mess to force chatbot usage as the only remaining viable source of information. But now that we're in the "agentic" swing of things, that language is just becoming more or less text in the ad copy: "get your agent to go out there in the wasteland of the former web and get you answers" (not mentioning who made the web into a wasteland)
@jonny Have they thought this through?
For example, what do the people making and selling things think about this? Handing over their lifeblood to a cartel of corporations that want them to pay to be in a market place, accessible to the corporation bots which answer queries from users who pay for the stuff with little agency over which stuff they get shown.
It's bonkers from everyone's perspective, and Zuck et al can't see this?
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So this was clear from the very start, that structurally the business model relies on making the web an incomprehensible mess to force chatbot usage as the only remaining viable source of information. But now that we're in the "agentic" swing of things, that language is just becoming more or less text in the ad copy: "get your agent to go out there in the wasteland of the former web and get you answers" (not mentioning who made the web into a wasteland)
If that happens, i might as well use Reticulum rather than something that left after Internet got sloppified and commertionalised
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R relay@relay.infosec.exchange shared this topic
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So this was clear from the very start, that structurally the business model relies on making the web an incomprehensible mess to force chatbot usage as the only remaining viable source of information. But now that we're in the "agentic" swing of things, that language is just becoming more or less text in the ad copy: "get your agent to go out there in the wasteland of the former web and get you answers" (not mentioning who made the web into a wasteland)
Love how all this is being subsidized by the federal government resulting in a negative effective tax rate for some of the largest companies on earth.
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Zuck, 2026 Q1 earnings call: "our plan is to make an AI that's really good at shopping"
@jonny among all the other dumb bullshit in this wave the meta being completely unable to get anything together bit is one of the funniest. they dont even know how to sell hype of vague promises, its just him stumbling for words to say out loud
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Love how all this is being subsidized by the federal government resulting in a negative effective tax rate for some of the largest companies on earth.
@jonny <incoherent screaming>
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@jonny among all the other dumb bullshit in this wave the meta being completely unable to get anything together bit is one of the funniest. they dont even know how to sell hype of vague promises, its just him stumbling for words to say out loud
@jackperkins
"There's openAI and anthropic, google is still in the race, and good lord what in the fuck is going on over there at meta" -
Love how all this is being subsidized by the federal government resulting in a negative effective tax rate for some of the largest companies on earth.
Theft, kleptocracy, corruption. There are words for what’s happening.
