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bug of the day: a memcmp that only compares every fourth byte

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  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

    bug of the day: a memcmp that only compares every fourth byte

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    @gsuberland
    It's not named allmemcmp for a reason.

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    • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

      @gsuberland yes, that's exactly what i thought

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      @dysfun ehehehe

      the code in question lucked out by never actually using it in a path that matters, but it's in a core lib for something security sensitive so easily could've ended up being bad

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      • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

        @dysfun ehehehe

        the code in question lucked out by never actually using it in a path that matters, but it's in a core lib for something security sensitive so easily could've ended up being bad

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        @gsuberland yeah it lucked out by not having bit rotted yet

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        • marzhall@app.wafrn.netM marzhall@app.wafrn.net

          @dysfun@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social

          Hmm… is the issue casting 64-bit memory to an 8-bit char?

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          @marzhall @dysfun 32-bit, but yes

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          • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

            bug of the day: a memcmp that only compares every fourth byte

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            #16

            i blogged about the memcmp thing

            Watch out for missed warnings on vendor C++ toolchains - Graham Sutherland's Blog

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            • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

              i blogged about the memcmp thing

              Watch out for missed warnings on vendor C++ toolchains - Graham Sutherland's Blog

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              @gsuberland unrelated but shouldn't it be something like *(a++) ^ *(b++)?

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              • mildsunrise@tech.lgbtM mildsunrise@tech.lgbt

                @gsuberland unrelated but shouldn't it be something like *(a++) ^ *(b++)?

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                @mildsunrise probably yeah I'm tired lol

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                • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                  @mildsunrise probably yeah I'm tired lol

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                  @mildsunrise wait no, cos (a++) would be equivalent to pre-increment

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                  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                    @mildsunrise wait no, cos (a++) would be equivalent to pre-increment

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                    @mildsunrise but yeah it should be *a ^ *b and then separately incrementing

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                    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                      @mildsunrise wait no, cos (a++) would be equivalent to pre-increment

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                      @gsuberland (a++) is post increment, pre increment would be (++a)

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                      • mildsunrise@tech.lgbtM mildsunrise@tech.lgbt

                        @gsuberland (a++) is post increment, pre increment would be (++a)

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                        @mildsunrise if you wrap it in brackets and deref outside doesn't it turn into pre behaviour regardless? (now I'm writing this I'm realising it probably doesn't, but this is c++ so principle of most surprise applies lol)

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                        • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                          @mildsunrise if you wrap it in brackets and deref outside doesn't it turn into pre behaviour regardless? (now I'm writing this I'm realising it probably doesn't, but this is c++ so principle of most surprise applies lol)

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                          @mildsunrise yeah nah I'm just tiiired

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                          • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                            @mildsunrise yeah nah I'm just tiiired

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                            @gsuberland dw, relatable

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                            • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                              i blogged about the memcmp thing

                              Watch out for missed warnings on vendor C++ toolchains - Graham Sutherland's Blog

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                              @gsuberland i'm reminded of a weird bug i found in a compiler. in this case the vendor (green hills c compiler for coldfire cpus) converted a sequence like this:

                              ```uint8_t idx;
                              idx = ;
                              char newbyte = lookup_table[idx];

                              The code was converting upper/lowercase letters iirc.

                              In this case the compiler actually converted idx to a signed value using a coldfire MVS.B instruction for some reason, so you could obtain values outside of the lookup table array if the user input a byte >= 0x80.

                              Not incredibly useful on its own in the app I was analyzing, but the bug was in the compiler itself so needed to be fixed...I never would have spotted the bug were it not for using Ida back in the day.
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