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bug of the day: a memcmp that only compares every fourth byte

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  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

    @dysfun essentially this:

    int memcmp32(uint32_t* a, uint32_t* b, int words)
    {
    uint8_t sum = 0; // whoops
    while(words--) {
    sum |= *a++ ^ *b++;
    }
    return sum;
    }

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    @gsuberland yes, that's exactly what i thought

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    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

      bug of the day: a memcmp that only compares every fourth byte

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      @gsuberland my bad. I misheard directions, and used AL when what the boss really wanted was AI.

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      • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

        @dysfun it's a constant time implementation if that helps

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        @dysfun@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social

        Hmm… is the issue casting 64-bit memory to an 8-bit char?

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        • leo@60228.devL leo@60228.dev

          @gsuberland@chaos.social what about an strncmp that doesn't stop at a null terminator

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          @gsuberland@chaos.social ....the famous wii trucha bug is probably because broadon didn't understand the difference between strncmp and memcmp, in their own libc they do the same thing

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          • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

            @dysfun essentially this:

            int memcmp32(uint32_t* a, uint32_t* b, int words)
            {
            uint8_t sum = 0; // whoops
            while(words--) {
            sum |= *a++ ^ *b++;
            }
            return sum;
            }

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            #11

            @gsuberland @dysfun lmao

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            • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

              bug of the day: a memcmp that only compares every fourth byte

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              #12

              @gsuberland
              It's not named allmemcmp for a reason.

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              • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

                @gsuberland yes, that's exactly what i thought

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                #13

                @dysfun ehehehe

                the code in question lucked out by never actually using it in a path that matters, but it's in a core lib for something security sensitive so easily could've ended up being bad

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                • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                  @dysfun ehehehe

                  the code in question lucked out by never actually using it in a path that matters, but it's in a core lib for something security sensitive so easily could've ended up being bad

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                  @gsuberland yeah it lucked out by not having bit rotted yet

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                  • marzhall@app.wafrn.netM marzhall@app.wafrn.net

                    @dysfun@social.treehouse.systems @gsuberland@chaos.social

                    Hmm… is the issue casting 64-bit memory to an 8-bit char?

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                    @marzhall @dysfun 32-bit, but yes

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                    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                      bug of the day: a memcmp that only compares every fourth byte

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                      #16

                      i blogged about the memcmp thing

                      Watch out for missed warnings on vendor C++ toolchains - Graham Sutherland's Blog

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                      (blog.poly.nomial.co.uk)

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                      • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                        i blogged about the memcmp thing

                        Watch out for missed warnings on vendor C++ toolchains - Graham Sutherland's Blog

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                        @gsuberland unrelated but shouldn't it be something like *(a++) ^ *(b++)?

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                        • mildsunrise@tech.lgbtM mildsunrise@tech.lgbt

                          @gsuberland unrelated but shouldn't it be something like *(a++) ^ *(b++)?

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                          @mildsunrise probably yeah I'm tired lol

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                          • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                            @mildsunrise probably yeah I'm tired lol

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                            @mildsunrise wait no, cos (a++) would be equivalent to pre-increment

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                            • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                              @mildsunrise wait no, cos (a++) would be equivalent to pre-increment

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                              @mildsunrise but yeah it should be *a ^ *b and then separately incrementing

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                              • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                @mildsunrise wait no, cos (a++) would be equivalent to pre-increment

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                                @gsuberland (a++) is post increment, pre increment would be (++a)

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                                • mildsunrise@tech.lgbtM mildsunrise@tech.lgbt

                                  @gsuberland (a++) is post increment, pre increment would be (++a)

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                                  @mildsunrise if you wrap it in brackets and deref outside doesn't it turn into pre behaviour regardless? (now I'm writing this I'm realising it probably doesn't, but this is c++ so principle of most surprise applies lol)

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                                  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                    @mildsunrise if you wrap it in brackets and deref outside doesn't it turn into pre behaviour regardless? (now I'm writing this I'm realising it probably doesn't, but this is c++ so principle of most surprise applies lol)

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                                    @mildsunrise yeah nah I'm just tiiired

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                                    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                      @mildsunrise yeah nah I'm just tiiired

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                                      @gsuberland dw, relatable

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                                      • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                        i blogged about the memcmp thing

                                        Watch out for missed warnings on vendor C++ toolchains - Graham Sutherland's Blog

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                                        (blog.poly.nomial.co.uk)

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                                        @gsuberland i'm reminded of a weird bug i found in a compiler. in this case the vendor (green hills c compiler for coldfire cpus) converted a sequence like this:

                                        ```uint8_t idx;
                                        idx = ;
                                        char newbyte = lookup_table[idx];

                                        The code was converting upper/lowercase letters iirc.

                                        In this case the compiler actually converted idx to a signed value using a coldfire MVS.B instruction for some reason, so you could obtain values outside of the lookup table array if the user input a byte >= 0x80.

                                        Not incredibly useful on its own in the app I was analyzing, but the bug was in the compiler itself so needed to be fixed...I never would have spotted the bug were it not for using Ida back in the day.
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