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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

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  • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

    Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

    They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

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    @geerlingguy

    >looks at FranEnder 3, wires strewn about, allen keys hither, thither and forth.

    >screen that worked, surely, at some point

    How can Bamboo even dare attempt to improve upon perfection such as this?

    If I can't print with soul, I don't wanna print at all.

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    • raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.placeR raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @a @geerlingguy I'm locked in an older version (and a P1S set to be offline) and it's a very powerful program that's super easy to create parts and do edits directly in. (everything else is pushing towards doing the editing in blender which is overwhelmingly more complicated and way more than I'd ever want to deal with). They were legitimately great for a LONG time and the printers are some of the most affordable for their quality, it just sucks they're pushing for online only/drm stuff now

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      @raptor85 thanks! I wonder if I buy one will I be stuck in their shenanigans ?   @geerlingguy

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      • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

        Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

        They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

        - YouTube

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        @geerlingguy What do you recommend under $500? I'm new to 3D printing. Need something reliable to get started.

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        • hrw@society.oftrolls.comH hrw@society.oftrolls.com

          @geerlingguy I may be biased, but after reading posts and watching several videos about 3D printing, I had a feeling that too many Bambu lab users were similar to Apple users.

          "There is only one brand, you shall not have other brands before me".

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          @hrw @geerlingguy I don't think of myself as a "Bambu Lab User" (though I suppose technically I am.)

          I've personally owned 4 or 5 different brands (Bambu, Prusa, Monoprice, Ender) and built a RepRap in 2011.

          Bambu got *a lot* right that others companies just could not, as far as quality and speed... openeness? Not as much.

          And every (tech) choice is a tradeoff: price, quality, speed, openness, repairability, etc.

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          • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

            Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

            They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

            - YouTube

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            #29

            @geerlingguy I'm in the market for a 3D printer. One brand I won't consider is Bambu Lab 3D printers.

            So, if/when I buy a 3D printer to make boxes, cups, and/or board game playing pieces I'll make them without asking for Bambu's or any other vendor's blessing thank you very much.

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            • apples_and_pears@mastodon.worldA apples_and_pears@mastodon.world

              @geerlingguy I'm in the market for a 3D printer. One brand I won't consider is Bambu Lab 3D printers.

              So, if/when I buy a 3D printer to make boxes, cups, and/or board game playing pieces I'll make them without asking for Bambu's or any other vendor's blessing thank you very much.

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              #30

              @geerlingguy Food grad filament is available https://help.prusa3d.com/filament-material-guide

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              • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                - YouTube

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                @geerlingguy i am still on the fence about ever buying a printer. As a non techie, this is pushing me off said fence

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                • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                  Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                  They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                  - YouTube

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                  #32

                  @geerlingguy vote with our wallets we must...

                  I'm considering a Qidi printer as my first, but not yet taken the plunge. Believe Klipper can be a little daunting for newcomers.

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                  • a@852360996.91268476.xyzA a@852360996.91268476.xyz

                    @raptor85 thanks! I wonder if I buy one will I be stuck in their shenanigans ?   @geerlingguy

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                    #33

                    @a @geerlingguy I would honestly skip and buy a different one at this point. While you can still do what I did (disable all online features on the printer and never let it register online) there's no guarantee that will be easy on future firmwares and the software is a ticking timebomb that will stop functioning at some point in the future, it may be years, but at some point it'll be so out of date it would need to be run in a VM.

                    I do wish other printer software had better editing though....

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                    • walruths@mastodon.socialW walruths@mastodon.social

                      @geerlingguy

                      >looks at FranEnder 3, wires strewn about, allen keys hither, thither and forth.

                      >screen that worked, surely, at some point

                      How can Bamboo even dare attempt to improve upon perfection such as this?

                      If I can't print with soul, I don't wanna print at all.

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                      @Walruths Haha and so so many bed leveling failures 😄

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                      • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                        Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                        They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                        - YouTube

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                        @geerlingguy

                        Wow. I already know that my kit-build MK4S will work just fine with the wifi board completely removed.

                        If I wanna print gun parts, ain't nobody's business but mine.

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                        • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                          Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                          They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

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                          @geerlingguy Some advice would be helpful (maybe an expanded video?) for those of us who bought into the Bambu ecosystem during its heyday and intended it to be THE ONE 3D printer we were going to own for the foreseeable future.

                          My guess: Turn on LAN mode and use a 3rd-party slicer?

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                          • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                            Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                            They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

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                            @geerlingguy we shall call it BANNEDBU from now on

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                            • ml@social.mitexleo.oneM ml@social.mitexleo.one

                              @geerlingguy What do you recommend under $500? I'm new to 3D printing. Need something reliable to get started.

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                              @ml do you want your hobby to be 3d printing or 3d printers? If it's printing, then BambuLab is still the obvious choice. Not sure about US pricing, but you could probably get a P2S at or around that price which is an absolute beast. But even an A1 Mini at less than half your budget would be great to start with.

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                              • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                - YouTube

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                                @geerlingguy Hi Jeff, I made an open source replacement/drop-in for the binary blob used in Orca Slicer to communicate with the printer. https://contentnation.net/en/grumpydevelop/bambunetwork_oss or the Orca Slicer github issue 12896. Could use some more testers, "works on my machine" P1S Ubuntu docker image. It should work on windows, mac and linux on arm, but I can't test it. You need a patched slicer to load the other .so, but no other functional change. Only does the minimum, can print and control all things on the printer.

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                                • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                  Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                  They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                  - YouTube

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                                  @geerlingguy Have you (or anyone else here) had any experience with the Elegoo Centauri Carbon? I'm a little fed up with my gen 1Ender 3 and I don't want to down the Bambu Lab route because of all this stuff...

                                  #3Dprinter @3dprinting

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                                  • mifoodie@social.vivaldi.netM mifoodie@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @geerlingguy Have you (or anyone else here) had any experience with the Elegoo Centauri Carbon? I'm a little fed up with my gen 1Ender 3 and I don't want to down the Bambu Lab route because of all this stuff...

                                    #3Dprinter @3dprinting

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                                    @MIfoodie @3dprinting@techhub.social I've heard good things about it and Snapmaker today, but haven't personally tested either.

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                                    • fichek@mastodon.socialF fichek@mastodon.social

                                      @ml do you want your hobby to be 3d printing or 3d printers? If it's printing, then BambuLab is still the obvious choice. Not sure about US pricing, but you could probably get a P2S at or around that price which is an absolute beast. But even an A1 Mini at less than half your budget would be great to start with.

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                                      @fichek Yeah, I was looking into the A1. It stills costs about $500 in Bangladesh after vat and tax. It's hard to find other brands here.

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