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  • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

    Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

    They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

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    guysoft@hayu.shG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6
    You might like to see this, its part of OctoPrint v2.0 that is in the works:

    https://github.com/OctoPrint/OctoPrint-BambuConnector

    I just moved from my OctoPrint printer to a bambu p1s and I sorta want to go back, but I also need something that just prints.
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    • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

      @geerlingguy I've been avoiding Bambu like the plague since they made their first blog post "trying to set the record straight".
      OTOH I really need to get a new printer to replace my aging (and modded-to-death) ender 3.
      Do you have any recommendations? I've been looking to the prusa core one+ (since the Bondtech INDX is or will be available for that). They seem to honor the open source community, but you never know what'll happen.
      Perhaps I should just build a Voron 2.4 and be done with it.

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      #7

      @grumpydad @geerlingguy Prusa has been great for a really long time, support their printers well, and offer upgrades when possible.

      You could have upgraded a MK3 to a CoreOne+ through upgrade kits over time if you wanted though it would be the printer of Theseus by the end.

      I’ve got an INDX on order for my CoreOne+.

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      • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

        @geerlingguy I've been avoiding Bambu like the plague since they made their first blog post "trying to set the record straight".
        OTOH I really need to get a new printer to replace my aging (and modded-to-death) ender 3.
        Do you have any recommendations? I've been looking to the prusa core one+ (since the Bondtech INDX is or will be available for that). They seem to honor the open source community, but you never know what'll happen.
        Perhaps I should just build a Voron 2.4 and be done with it.

        landelare@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #8

        @grumpydad @geerlingguy Offline, offline, offline. They can try whatever they want if they're literally unable to alter your device's functionality.

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        • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

          Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

          They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

          - YouTube

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          voguelagalere@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @geerlingguy I'm 69 years old and was an attorney for 40 years, many of which were spent in litigation. One thing I've learned:

          You fool me once, you dumbbell.
          You fool me twice, me dumbbell.

          That, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog

          #Sovol #Voron

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          • landelare@mastodon.gamedev.placeL landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @grumpydad @geerlingguy Offline, offline, offline. They can try whatever they want if they're literally unable to alter your device's functionality.

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            wrote last edited by
            #10

            @landelare @geerlingguy Its not only about the sw though. If possible I want the hw to be as generic as possible to not have any ties to a company (since if they do, prices are liable to be high)

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            • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

              Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

              They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

              - YouTube

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              #11
              As if the last red flag wasn't bright enough. I understand not having the budget to move immediately, or relying on a specific technology with no alternative elsewhere, but the warnings were already there.
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              • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

                @geerlingguy I've been avoiding Bambu like the plague since they made their first blog post "trying to set the record straight".
                OTOH I really need to get a new printer to replace my aging (and modded-to-death) ender 3.
                Do you have any recommendations? I've been looking to the prusa core one+ (since the Bondtech INDX is or will be available for that). They seem to honor the open source community, but you never know what'll happen.
                Perhaps I should just build a Voron 2.4 and be done with it.

                madjohnroberts@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @grumpydad I've been happy with my 2.4 but I think if I were building now I'd go with the latest revision of the Trident. The new release is due out very soon and having the rigid frame for the tool head gantry is nicer for print quality at speed.

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                • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                  Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                  They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                  - YouTube

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #13

                  @geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.

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                  • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                    Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                    They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                    - YouTube

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                    #14

                    @geerlingguy Bambu’s strategy fits in well with California AB-2047, which is attempting to prevent 3d printers from making illegal gun parts, but would actually put a huge burden on other 3d printers makers, and also piss off a block of voters I don’t think democrats can afford to lose, and I’m one of those voters.

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                    • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                      Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                      They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                      - YouTube

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                      #15

                      @geerlingguy I may be biased, but after reading posts and watching several videos about 3D printing, I had a feeling that too many Bambu lab users were similar to Apple users.

                      "There is only one brand, you shall not have other brands before me".

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                      • poopi@mastodon.onlineP poopi@mastodon.online

                        @geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.

                        geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @poopi it's mostly because companies pick battles with tiny projects and individuals, instead of other companies.

                        I don't blame an individual for not wanting to upend their life and plonk down $15k+ for lawyer help ($500/hour) just to be put under the big company's PR firm guns.

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                        • foobarsoft@mastodon.socialF foobarsoft@mastodon.social

                          @grumpydad @geerlingguy Prusa has been great for a really long time, support their printers well, and offer upgrades when possible.

                          You could have upgraded a MK3 to a CoreOne+ through upgrade kits over time if you wanted though it would be the printer of Theseus by the end.

                          I’ve got an INDX on order for my CoreOne+.

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                          @foobarsoft @grumpydad @geerlingguy I’ll second Prusa. I’ve been using mine for 5-6 years and upgraded it quite a bit.

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                          • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                            Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                            They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                            - YouTube

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                            #18

                            @geerlingguy
                            It's the #iot we were "promised", and it always needs a questionable app.

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                            • poopi@mastodon.onlineP poopi@mastodon.online

                              @geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.

                              amy@sk.girlthi.ngA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @poopi@mastodon.online @geerlingguy@mastodon.social silly open source developers should just sue giant tech company, of course

                              with what funding

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                              • amy@sk.girlthi.ngA amy@sk.girlthi.ng

                                @poopi@mastodon.online @geerlingguy@mastodon.social silly open source developers should just sue giant tech company, of course

                                with what funding

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                                #20

                                @amy @geerlingguy That basically means that OSS concept is dead.

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                                • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                  Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                  They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                  - YouTube

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                                  #21

                                  @geerlingguy The whole mix of commercial and open source seems to be breaking down left and right these days 😞

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                                  • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                    Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                    They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                    - YouTube

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                                    @geerlingguy Nice video Jeff. #bambu #bambulab #3dprinting #3dprinter is OFF my Xmas list list for ever.

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                                    • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                      Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                      They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                      - YouTube

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                                      #23

                                      @geerlingguy For those who can’t/don’t want to view a YouTube video:

                                      https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2026/bambu-lab-abusing-open-source-social-contract/

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                                      • a@852360996.91268476.xyzA a@852360996.91268476.xyz

                                        @geerlingguy as someone who doesn’t know much about printers idk which one is the right brand then? I remember there were good reviews of bamboo labs in the past

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                                        #24

                                        @a @geerlingguy I'm locked in an older version (and a P1S set to be offline) and it's a very powerful program that's super easy to create parts and do edits directly in. (everything else is pushing towards doing the editing in blender which is overwhelmingly more complicated and way more than I'd ever want to deal with). They were legitimately great for a LONG time and the printers are some of the most affordable for their quality, it just sucks they're pushing for online only/drm stuff now

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                                        • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                          Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                          They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                          - YouTube

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                                          #25

                                          @geerlingguy

                                          >looks at FranEnder 3, wires strewn about, allen keys hither, thither and forth.

                                          >screen that worked, surely, at some point

                                          How can Bamboo even dare attempt to improve upon perfection such as this?

                                          If I can't print with soul, I don't wanna print at all.

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