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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

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  • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

    Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

    They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

    - YouTube

    YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

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    jerrej@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #18

    @geerlingguy
    It's the #iot we were "promised", and it always needs a questionable app.

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    • poopi@mastodon.onlineP poopi@mastodon.online

      @geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.

      amy@sk.girlthi.ngA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #19

      @poopi@mastodon.online @geerlingguy@mastodon.social silly open source developers should just sue giant tech company, of course

      with what funding

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      • amy@sk.girlthi.ngA amy@sk.girlthi.ng

        @poopi@mastodon.online @geerlingguy@mastodon.social silly open source developers should just sue giant tech company, of course

        with what funding

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        #20

        @amy @geerlingguy That basically means that OSS concept is dead.

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        • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

          Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

          They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

          - YouTube

          YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

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          #21

          @geerlingguy The whole mix of commercial and open source seems to be breaking down left and right these days 😞

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          • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

            Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

            They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

            - YouTube

            YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

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            @geerlingguy Nice video Jeff. #bambu #bambulab #3dprinting #3dprinter is OFF my Xmas list list for ever.

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            • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

              Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

              They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

              - YouTube

              YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

              favicon

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              #23

              @geerlingguy For those who can’t/don’t want to view a YouTube video:

              Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

              Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.

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              • a@852360996.91268476.xyzA a@852360996.91268476.xyz

                @geerlingguy as someone who doesn’t know much about printers idk which one is the right brand then? I remember there were good reviews of bamboo labs in the past

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                @a @geerlingguy I'm locked in an older version (and a P1S set to be offline) and it's a very powerful program that's super easy to create parts and do edits directly in. (everything else is pushing towards doing the editing in blender which is overwhelmingly more complicated and way more than I'd ever want to deal with). They were legitimately great for a LONG time and the printers are some of the most affordable for their quality, it just sucks they're pushing for online only/drm stuff now

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                • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                  Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                  They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                  - YouTube

                  YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

                  favicon

                  (www.youtube.com)

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                  #25

                  @geerlingguy

                  >looks at FranEnder 3, wires strewn about, allen keys hither, thither and forth.

                  >screen that worked, surely, at some point

                  How can Bamboo even dare attempt to improve upon perfection such as this?

                  If I can't print with soul, I don't wanna print at all.

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                  • raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.placeR raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @a @geerlingguy I'm locked in an older version (and a P1S set to be offline) and it's a very powerful program that's super easy to create parts and do edits directly in. (everything else is pushing towards doing the editing in blender which is overwhelmingly more complicated and way more than I'd ever want to deal with). They were legitimately great for a LONG time and the printers are some of the most affordable for their quality, it just sucks they're pushing for online only/drm stuff now

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                    #26

                    @raptor85 thanks! I wonder if I buy one will I be stuck in their shenanigans ?   @geerlingguy

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                    • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                      Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                      They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                      - YouTube

                      YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

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                      #27

                      @geerlingguy What do you recommend under $500? I'm new to 3D printing. Need something reliable to get started.

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                      • hrw@society.oftrolls.comH hrw@society.oftrolls.com

                        @geerlingguy I may be biased, but after reading posts and watching several videos about 3D printing, I had a feeling that too many Bambu lab users were similar to Apple users.

                        "There is only one brand, you shall not have other brands before me".

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                        @hrw @geerlingguy I don't think of myself as a "Bambu Lab User" (though I suppose technically I am.)

                        I've personally owned 4 or 5 different brands (Bambu, Prusa, Monoprice, Ender) and built a RepRap in 2011.

                        Bambu got *a lot* right that others companies just could not, as far as quality and speed... openeness? Not as much.

                        And every (tech) choice is a tradeoff: price, quality, speed, openness, repairability, etc.

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                        • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                          Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                          They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                          - YouTube

                          YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

                          favicon

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                          @geerlingguy I'm in the market for a 3D printer. One brand I won't consider is Bambu Lab 3D printers.

                          So, if/when I buy a 3D printer to make boxes, cups, and/or board game playing pieces I'll make them without asking for Bambu's or any other vendor's blessing thank you very much.

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                          • apples_and_pears@mastodon.worldA apples_and_pears@mastodon.world

                            @geerlingguy I'm in the market for a 3D printer. One brand I won't consider is Bambu Lab 3D printers.

                            So, if/when I buy a 3D printer to make boxes, cups, and/or board game playing pieces I'll make them without asking for Bambu's or any other vendor's blessing thank you very much.

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                            @geerlingguy Food grad filament is available https://help.prusa3d.com/filament-material-guide

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                            • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                              Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                              They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                              - YouTube

                              YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

                              favicon

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                              @geerlingguy i am still on the fence about ever buying a printer. As a non techie, this is pushing me off said fence

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                              • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                - YouTube

                                YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

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                                #32

                                @geerlingguy vote with our wallets we must...

                                I'm considering a Qidi printer as my first, but not yet taken the plunge. Believe Klipper can be a little daunting for newcomers.

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                                • a@852360996.91268476.xyzA a@852360996.91268476.xyz

                                  @raptor85 thanks! I wonder if I buy one will I be stuck in their shenanigans ?   @geerlingguy

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                                  @a @geerlingguy I would honestly skip and buy a different one at this point. While you can still do what I did (disable all online features on the printer and never let it register online) there's no guarantee that will be easy on future firmwares and the software is a ticking timebomb that will stop functioning at some point in the future, it may be years, but at some point it'll be so out of date it would need to be run in a VM.

                                  I do wish other printer software had better editing though....

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                                  • walruths@mastodon.socialW walruths@mastodon.social

                                    @geerlingguy

                                    >looks at FranEnder 3, wires strewn about, allen keys hither, thither and forth.

                                    >screen that worked, surely, at some point

                                    How can Bamboo even dare attempt to improve upon perfection such as this?

                                    If I can't print with soul, I don't wanna print at all.

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                                    @Walruths Haha and so so many bed leveling failures 😄

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                                    • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                      Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                      They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                      - YouTube

                                      YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

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                                      @geerlingguy

                                      Wow. I already know that my kit-build MK4S will work just fine with the wifi board completely removed.

                                      If I wanna print gun parts, ain't nobody's business but mine.

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                                      • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                        Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                        They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                        - YouTube

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                                        @geerlingguy Some advice would be helpful (maybe an expanded video?) for those of us who bought into the Bambu ecosystem during its heyday and intended it to be THE ONE 3D printer we were going to own for the foreseeable future.

                                        My guess: Turn on LAN mode and use a 3rd-party slicer?

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                                        • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                          Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                          They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                          - YouTube

                                          YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.

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                                          @geerlingguy we shall call it BANNEDBU from now on

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