Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
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@geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.
@poopi it's mostly because companies pick battles with tiny projects and individuals, instead of other companies.
I don't blame an individual for not wanting to upend their life and plonk down $15k+ for lawyer help ($500/hour) just to be put under the big company's PR firm guns.
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@grumpydad @geerlingguy Prusa has been great for a really long time, support their printers well, and offer upgrades when possible.
You could have upgraded a MK3 to a CoreOne+ through upgrade kits over time if you wanted though it would be the printer of Theseus by the end.
I’ve got an INDX on order for my CoreOne+.
@foobarsoft @grumpydad @geerlingguy I’ll second Prusa. I’ve been using mine for 5-6 years and upgraded it quite a bit.
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
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It's the #iot we were "promised", and it always needs a questionable app. -
@geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.
@poopi@mastodon.online @geerlingguy@mastodon.social silly open source developers should just sue giant tech company, of course
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@poopi@mastodon.online @geerlingguy@mastodon.social silly open source developers should just sue giant tech company, of course
with what funding@amy @geerlingguy That basically means that OSS concept is dead.
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.
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@geerlingguy The whole mix of commercial and open source seems to be breaking down left and right these days
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.
(www.youtube.com)
@geerlingguy Nice video Jeff. #bambu #bambulab #3dprinting #3dprinter is OFF my Xmas list list for ever.
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.
(www.youtube.com)
@geerlingguy For those who can’t/don’t want to view a YouTube video:
Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract
Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.
Jeff Geerling (www.jeffgeerling.com)
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@geerlingguy as someone who doesn’t know much about printers idk which one is the right brand then? I remember there were good reviews of bamboo labs in the past
@a @geerlingguy I'm locked in an older version (and a P1S set to be offline) and it's a very powerful program that's super easy to create parts and do edits directly in. (everything else is pushing towards doing the editing in blender which is overwhelmingly more complicated and way more than I'd ever want to deal with). They were legitimately great for a LONG time and the printers are some of the most affordable for their quality, it just sucks they're pushing for online only/drm stuff now
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.
(www.youtube.com)
>looks at FranEnder 3, wires strewn about, allen keys hither, thither and forth.
>screen that worked, surely, at some point
How can Bamboo even dare attempt to improve upon perfection such as this?
If I can't print with soul, I don't wanna print at all.
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@a @geerlingguy I'm locked in an older version (and a P1S set to be offline) and it's a very powerful program that's super easy to create parts and do edits directly in. (everything else is pushing towards doing the editing in blender which is overwhelmingly more complicated and way more than I'd ever want to deal with). They were legitimately great for a LONG time and the printers are some of the most affordable for their quality, it just sucks they're pushing for online only/drm stuff now
@raptor85 thanks! I wonder if I buy one will I be stuck in their shenanigans ? @geerlingguy
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.
(www.youtube.com)
@geerlingguy What do you recommend under $500? I'm new to 3D printing. Need something reliable to get started.
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@geerlingguy I may be biased, but after reading posts and watching several videos about 3D printing, I had a feeling that too many Bambu lab users were similar to Apple users.
"There is only one brand, you shall not have other brands before me".
@hrw @geerlingguy I don't think of myself as a "Bambu Lab User" (though I suppose technically I am.)
I've personally owned 4 or 5 different brands (Bambu, Prusa, Monoprice, Ender) and built a RepRap in 2011.
Bambu got *a lot* right that others companies just could not, as far as quality and speed... openeness? Not as much.
And every (tech) choice is a tradeoff: price, quality, speed, openness, repairability, etc.
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.
(www.youtube.com)
@geerlingguy I'm in the market for a 3D printer. One brand I won't consider is Bambu Lab 3D printers.
So, if/when I buy a 3D printer to make boxes, cups, and/or board game playing pieces I'll make them without asking for Bambu's or any other vendor's blessing thank you very much.
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@geerlingguy I'm in the market for a 3D printer. One brand I won't consider is Bambu Lab 3D printers.
So, if/when I buy a 3D printer to make boxes, cups, and/or board game playing pieces I'll make them without asking for Bambu's or any other vendor's blessing thank you very much.
@geerlingguy Food grad filament is available https://help.prusa3d.com/filament-material-guide
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.
(www.youtube.com)
@geerlingguy i am still on the fence about ever buying a printer. As a non techie, this is pushing me off said fence
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.
(www.youtube.com)
@geerlingguy vote with our wallets we must...
I'm considering a Qidi printer as my first, but not yet taken the plunge. Believe Klipper can be a little daunting for newcomers.
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@raptor85 thanks! I wonder if I buy one will I be stuck in their shenanigans ? @geerlingguy
@a @geerlingguy I would honestly skip and buy a different one at this point. While you can still do what I did (disable all online features on the printer and never let it register online) there's no guarantee that will be easy on future firmwares and the software is a ticking timebomb that will stop functioning at some point in the future, it may be years, but at some point it'll be so out of date it would need to be run in a VM.
I do wish other printer software had better editing though....
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>looks at FranEnder 3, wires strewn about, allen keys hither, thither and forth.
>screen that worked, surely, at some point
How can Bamboo even dare attempt to improve upon perfection such as this?
If I can't print with soul, I don't wanna print at all.
@Walruths Haha and so so many bed leveling failures
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Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.
They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.
- YouTube
YouTubessa voit nauttia parhaista videoista ja musiikista, ladata alkuperäistä sisältöä ja jakaa kaiken ystäviesi, perheesi ja koko maailman kanssa.
(www.youtube.com)
Wow. I already know that my kit-build MK4S will work just fine with the wifi board completely removed.
If I wanna print gun parts, ain't nobody's business but mine.
