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  • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

    Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

    They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

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    #11
    As if the last red flag wasn't bright enough. I understand not having the budget to move immediately, or relying on a specific technology with no alternative elsewhere, but the warnings were already there.
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    • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

      @geerlingguy I've been avoiding Bambu like the plague since they made their first blog post "trying to set the record straight".
      OTOH I really need to get a new printer to replace my aging (and modded-to-death) ender 3.
      Do you have any recommendations? I've been looking to the prusa core one+ (since the Bondtech INDX is or will be available for that). They seem to honor the open source community, but you never know what'll happen.
      Perhaps I should just build a Voron 2.4 and be done with it.

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      @grumpydad I've been happy with my 2.4 but I think if I were building now I'd go with the latest revision of the Trident. The new release is due out very soon and having the rigid frame for the tool head gantry is nicer for print quality at speed.

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      • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

        Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

        They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

        - YouTube

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        @geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.

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        • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

          Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

          They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

          - YouTube

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          #14

          @geerlingguy Bambu’s strategy fits in well with California AB-2047, which is attempting to prevent 3d printers from making illegal gun parts, but would actually put a huge burden on other 3d printers makers, and also piss off a block of voters I don’t think democrats can afford to lose, and I’m one of those voters.

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          • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

            Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

            They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

            - YouTube

            Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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            #15

            @geerlingguy I may be biased, but after reading posts and watching several videos about 3D printing, I had a feeling that too many Bambu lab users were similar to Apple users.

            "There is only one brand, you shall not have other brands before me".

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            • poopi@mastodon.onlineP poopi@mastodon.online

              @geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.

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              #16

              @poopi it's mostly because companies pick battles with tiny projects and individuals, instead of other companies.

              I don't blame an individual for not wanting to upend their life and plonk down $15k+ for lawyer help ($500/hour) just to be put under the big company's PR firm guns.

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              • foobarsoft@mastodon.socialF foobarsoft@mastodon.social

                @grumpydad @geerlingguy Prusa has been great for a really long time, support their printers well, and offer upgrades when possible.

                You could have upgraded a MK3 to a CoreOne+ through upgrade kits over time if you wanted though it would be the printer of Theseus by the end.

                I’ve got an INDX on order for my CoreOne+.

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                @foobarsoft @grumpydad @geerlingguy I’ll second Prusa. I’ve been using mine for 5-6 years and upgraded it quite a bit.

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                • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                  Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                  They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                  - YouTube

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                  #18

                  @geerlingguy
                  It's the #iot we were "promised", and it always needs a questionable app.

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                  • poopi@mastodon.onlineP poopi@mastodon.online

                    @geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.

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                    @poopi@mastodon.online @geerlingguy@mastodon.social silly open source developers should just sue giant tech company, of course

                    with what funding

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                    • amy@sk.girlthi.ngA amy@sk.girlthi.ng

                      @poopi@mastodon.online @geerlingguy@mastodon.social silly open source developers should just sue giant tech company, of course

                      with what funding

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                      @amy @geerlingguy That basically means that OSS concept is dead.

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                      • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                        Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                        They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                        - YouTube

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                        @geerlingguy The whole mix of commercial and open source seems to be breaking down left and right these days 😞

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                        • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                          Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                          They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                          - YouTube

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                          @geerlingguy Nice video Jeff. #bambu #bambulab #3dprinting #3dprinter is OFF my Xmas list list for ever.

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                          • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                            Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                            They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                            - YouTube

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                            @geerlingguy For those who can’t/don’t want to view a YouTube video:

                            Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

                            Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.

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                            • a@852360996.91268476.xyzA a@852360996.91268476.xyz

                              @geerlingguy as someone who doesn’t know much about printers idk which one is the right brand then? I remember there were good reviews of bamboo labs in the past

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                              @a @geerlingguy I'm locked in an older version (and a P1S set to be offline) and it's a very powerful program that's super easy to create parts and do edits directly in. (everything else is pushing towards doing the editing in blender which is overwhelmingly more complicated and way more than I'd ever want to deal with). They were legitimately great for a LONG time and the printers are some of the most affordable for their quality, it just sucks they're pushing for online only/drm stuff now

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                              • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                - YouTube

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                                @geerlingguy

                                >looks at FranEnder 3, wires strewn about, allen keys hither, thither and forth.

                                >screen that worked, surely, at some point

                                How can Bamboo even dare attempt to improve upon perfection such as this?

                                If I can't print with soul, I don't wanna print at all.

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                                • raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.placeR raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @a @geerlingguy I'm locked in an older version (and a P1S set to be offline) and it's a very powerful program that's super easy to create parts and do edits directly in. (everything else is pushing towards doing the editing in blender which is overwhelmingly more complicated and way more than I'd ever want to deal with). They were legitimately great for a LONG time and the printers are some of the most affordable for their quality, it just sucks they're pushing for online only/drm stuff now

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                                  @raptor85 thanks! I wonder if I buy one will I be stuck in their shenanigans ?   @geerlingguy

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                                  • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                    Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                    They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                    - YouTube

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                                    @geerlingguy What do you recommend under $500? I'm new to 3D printing. Need something reliable to get started.

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                                    • hrw@society.oftrolls.comH hrw@society.oftrolls.com

                                      @geerlingguy I may be biased, but after reading posts and watching several videos about 3D printing, I had a feeling that too many Bambu lab users were similar to Apple users.

                                      "There is only one brand, you shall not have other brands before me".

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                                      @hrw @geerlingguy I don't think of myself as a "Bambu Lab User" (though I suppose technically I am.)

                                      I've personally owned 4 or 5 different brands (Bambu, Prusa, Monoprice, Ender) and built a RepRap in 2011.

                                      Bambu got *a lot* right that others companies just could not, as far as quality and speed... openeness? Not as much.

                                      And every (tech) choice is a tradeoff: price, quality, speed, openness, repairability, etc.

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                                      • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                                        Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

                                        They're breaking the open source social contract (for the nth time...), and I'm past hoping they'll amend their ways.

                                        - YouTube

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                                        @geerlingguy I'm in the market for a 3D printer. One brand I won't consider is Bambu Lab 3D printers.

                                        So, if/when I buy a 3D printer to make boxes, cups, and/or board game playing pieces I'll make them without asking for Bambu's or any other vendor's blessing thank you very much.

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                                        • apples_and_pears@mastodon.worldA apples_and_pears@mastodon.world

                                          @geerlingguy I'm in the market for a 3D printer. One brand I won't consider is Bambu Lab 3D printers.

                                          So, if/when I buy a 3D printer to make boxes, cups, and/or board game playing pieces I'll make them without asking for Bambu's or any other vendor's blessing thank you very much.

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                                          @geerlingguy Food grad filament is available https://help.prusa3d.com/filament-material-guide

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