Bambu Lab 3D printers: never again.

[voguelagalere@mastodon.online]

@geerlingguy I'm 69 years old and was an attorney for 40 years, many of which were spent in litigation. One thing I've learned:

You fool me once, you dumbbell.
You fool me twice, me dumbbell.

That, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog

#Sovol #Voron

[grumpydad@infosec.exchange]

@landelare @geerlingguy Its not only about the sw though. If possible I want the hw to be as generic as possible to not have any ties to a company (since if they do, prices are liable to be high)

[csolisr@hub.azkware.net]

As if the last red flag wasn't bright enough. I understand not having the budget to move immediately, or relying on a specific technology with no alternative elsewhere, but the warnings were already there.

[madjohnroberts@mastodon.social]

@grumpydad I've been happy with my 2.4 but I think if I were building now I'd go with the latest revision of the Trident. The new release is due out very soon and having the rigid frame for the tool head gantry is nicer for print quality at speed.

[poopi@mastodon.online]

@geerlingguy This also demonstrates the Open Source community’s inability to enforce license terms.

[billclawson@sfba.social]

@geerlingguy Bambu’s strategy fits in well with California AB-2047, which is attempting to prevent 3d printers from making illegal gun parts, but would actually put a huge burden on other 3d printers makers, and also piss off a block of voters I don’t think democrats can afford to lose, and I’m one of those voters.

[hrw@society.oftrolls.com]

@geerlingguy I may be biased, but after reading posts and watching several videos about 3D printing, I had a feeling that too many Bambu lab users were similar to Apple users.

"There is only one brand, you shall not have other brands before me".

[geerlingguy@mastodon.social]

@poopi it's mostly because companies pick battles with tiny projects and individuals, instead of other companies.

I don't blame an individual for not wanting to upend their life and plonk down $15k+ for lawyer help ($500/hour) just to be put under the big company's PR firm guns.

[passwordsarehard4@mastodon.social]

@foobarsoft @grumpydad @geerlingguy I’ll second Prusa. I’ve been using mine for 5-6 years and upgraded it quite a bit.

[jerrej@mastodon.social]

@geerlingguy
It's the #iot we were "promised", and it always needs a questionable app.

[amy@sk.girlthi.ng]

@poopi@mastodon.online @geerlingguy@mastodon.social silly open source developers should just sue giant tech company, of course

with what funding

[poopi@mastodon.online]

@amy @geerlingguy That basically means that OSS concept is dead.

[yon@sakurajima.moe]

@geerlingguy The whole mix of commercial and open source seems to be breaking down left and right these days

[adingbatponder@fosstodon.org]

@geerlingguy Nice video Jeff. #bambu #bambulab #3dprinting #3dprinter is OFF my Xmas list list for ever.

[ahltorp@mastodon.nu]

@geerlingguy For those who can’t/don’t want to view a YouTube video:

Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.

Jeff Geerling (www.jeffgeerling.com)

[raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@a @geerlingguy I'm locked in an older version (and a P1S set to be offline) and it's a very powerful program that's super easy to create parts and do edits directly in. (everything else is pushing towards doing the editing in blender which is overwhelmingly more complicated and way more than I'd ever want to deal with). They were legitimately great for a LONG time and the printers are some of the most affordable for their quality, it just sucks they're pushing for online only/drm stuff now

[walruths@mastodon.social]

@geerlingguy

>looks at FranEnder 3, wires strewn about, allen keys hither, thither and forth.

>screen that worked, surely, at some point

How can Bamboo even dare attempt to improve upon perfection such as this?

If I can't print with soul, I don't wanna print at all.

[a@852360996.91268476.xyz]

@raptor85 thanks! I wonder if I buy one will I be stuck in their shenanigans ?   @geerlingguy

[ml@social.mitexleo.one]

@geerlingguy What do you recommend under $500? I'm new to 3D printing. Need something reliable to get started.

[rasterweb@mastodon.social]

@hrw @geerlingguy I don't think of myself as a "Bambu Lab User" (though I suppose technically I am.)

I've personally owned 4 or 5 different brands (Bambu, Prusa, Monoprice, Ender) and built a RepRap in 2011.

Bambu got *a lot* right that others companies just could not, as far as quality and speed... openeness? Not as much.

And every (tech) choice is a tradeoff: price, quality, speed, openness, repairability, etc.