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Trump angry with Zelenskyy for defending himself against Russia last year: "You area gambling with world war 3!"

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    @schmaker how so?

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    @randahl @schmaker

    Russia has recently been sending weapons to Iran, which is certainly better than attacking Ukraine with them.

    Also, it's driving a wedge between Trump and Putin.

    Not that that's justifying a war on Iran, but the side effects on Ukraine do seem slightly positive to me.

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    • schmaker@schmaker.euS schmaker@schmaker.eu
      @randahl Correct me if I'm wrong, but Iran is suplying Russia, so if Iran gets busy, no more weapons for Russia - they actually may ask for weapons from Russia.
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      @schmaker I agree that may have some impact. But while his conflict with Iran may help Ukraine indirectly, his removal of all US weapons support to Ukraine is helping Russia a thousand fold.

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      • riggbeck@mastodon.socialR riggbeck@mastodon.social

        @randahl

        Is there nothing he won't do to distract from the Epstein Files?

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        @riggbeck no.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          @schmaker I agree that may have some impact. But while his conflict with Iran may help Ukraine indirectly, his removal of all US weapons support to Ukraine is helping Russia a thousand fold.

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          #10

          @randahl That's different topic. Someone might correct me, but if we pay, US supply still applies.

          And as much as this is more #EU problem than US (which I do not consider an ally anymore) it makes sense to me.

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          • mcv@friendica.opensocial.spaceM mcv@friendica.opensocial.space

            @randahl @schmaker

            Russia has recently been sending weapons to Iran, which is certainly better than attacking Ukraine with them.

            Also, it's driving a wedge between Trump and Putin.

            Not that that's justifying a war on Iran, but the side effects on Ukraine do seem slightly positive to me.

            randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            @mcv one could get the feeling, that the US military brass is deliberately bringing him suggestions they know will make Trump feel all powerful, but at the same time helps destroy his Putin relationship.
            @schmaker

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            • schmaker@schmaker.euS schmaker@schmaker.eu

              @randahl That's different topic. Someone might correct me, but if we pay, US supply still applies.

              And as much as this is more #EU problem than US (which I do not consider an ally anymore) it makes sense to me.

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              @schmaker I respect your point of view.

              However in my view, protecting the free world is a shared responsibility. And as soon as the US ends up in a direct conflict with China, Trump will absolutely demand we see that as a shared responsibility too. Just like Bush did with Iraq and Afghanistan.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                @schmaker I respect your point of view.

                However in my view, protecting the free world is a shared responsibility. And as soon as the US ends up in a direct conflict with China, Trump will absolutely demand we see that as a shared responsibility too. Just like Bush did with Iraq and Afghanistan.

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                #13
                @randahl Yeah, no offense in my comments, just saying it might help in matters of Ukraine .. the consequences are yet to be seen.. 😕
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                • riggbeck@mastodon.socialR riggbeck@mastodon.social

                  @randahl

                  Is there nothing he won't do to distract from the Epstein Files?

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                  @riggbeck
                  He puts his name on everything, so therefore it is renamed the Trump Epstein files.
                  @randahl

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Trump angry with Zelenskyy for defending himself against Russia last year: "You area gambling with world war 3!"

                    Trump today: Now watch me move 41 percent of my active war ships, including two carrier strike groups and 90 attack aircraft, to Iran — a key strategic partner of China and Russia.

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                    @randahl

                    Trump will do anything to avoid the Epstein Files.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Trump angry with Zelenskyy for defending himself against Russia last year: "You area gambling with world war 3!"

                      Trump today: Now watch me move 41 percent of my active war ships, including two carrier strike groups and 90 attack aircraft, to Iran — a key strategic partner of China and Russia.

                      gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @randahl Trump’s cabinet:
                      ”Let’s put our assets to Israel into harm’s way, and Israel strikes first. That way when Iran retaliates and our guys are hurt, we can justify this.”

                      Israel: ”Can do!”, and blows up the FUCKING PARLIAMENT in Tehran. 😳

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        @schmaker I respect your point of view.

                        However in my view, protecting the free world is a shared responsibility. And as soon as the US ends up in a direct conflict with China, Trump will absolutely demand we see that as a shared responsibility too. Just like Bush did with Iraq and Afghanistan.

                        windofchange@mastodon.onlineW This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @randahl Print this toot. It will come in handy in the near future to do the "I told you so". 👍
                        @schmaker

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          Trump angry with Zelenskyy for defending himself against Russia last year: "You area gambling with world war 3!"

                          Trump today: Now watch me move 41 percent of my active war ships, including two carrier strike groups and 90 attack aircraft, to Iran — a key strategic partner of China and Russia.

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                          @randahl that’s not war, but a “special military operation” directed at Iran. It will be over in a matter of days…

                          Yeah right😥

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                          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                            @randahl

                            Trump will do anything to avoid the Epstein Files.

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                            @Npars01 @randahl

                            You mean like attacking Iran.

                            No, never ever.

                            Oh, wait.

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              @schmaker I agree that may have some impact. But while his conflict with Iran may help Ukraine indirectly, his removal of all US weapons support to Ukraine is helping Russia a thousand fold.

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                              @randahl @schmaker I've read of a direct connection that if USA attacks, they will spend air defense rockets and then nothing will be available to sell (USA doesn't give) to Ukraine.

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                              • vbabka@mastodon.socialV vbabka@mastodon.social

                                @randahl @schmaker I've read of a direct connection that if USA attacks, they will spend air defense rockets and then nothing will be available to sell (USA doesn't give) to Ukraine.

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                                @vbabka @randahl Didn't noticed any article like this
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                                • cejjacobs@mastodon.socialC cejjacobs@mastodon.social

                                  @randahl that’s not war, but a “special military operation” directed at Iran. It will be over in a matter of days…

                                  Yeah right😥

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                                  @cejjacobs @randahl Three-day military operation, quick & victorious war, for sure. Trust me bro..

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    Trump angry with Zelenskyy for defending himself against Russia last year: "You area gambling with world war 3!"

                                    Trump today: Now watch me move 41 percent of my active war ships, including two carrier strike groups and 90 attack aircraft, to Iran — a key strategic partner of China and Russia.

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                                    @randahl
                                    “Satanyahu told me to do it”

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      Trump angry with Zelenskyy for defending himself against Russia last year: "You area gambling with world war 3!"

                                      Trump today: Now watch me move 41 percent of my active war ships, including two carrier strike groups and 90 attack aircraft, to Iran — a key strategic partner of China and Russia.

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                                      @randahl it’s like dominos falling. It goes Hamas-Hezbollah-Iran-Russia-China. Each of these are dependant on the following ones, so we’ll see what happens.

                                      The headaches of Xi and Putin must be massive.

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                                      • schmaker@schmaker.euS schmaker@schmaker.eu
                                        @randahl Yeah, no offense in my comments, just saying it might help in matters of Ukraine .. the consequences are yet to be seen.. 😕
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                                        @schmaker @randahl I have friends from Iran and they ling time ago told me, thats best think that can happen to their country is to be attacked from US. One of them was beaten on university several years ago in IRAN by police, now living in exile in Europe. So I think the most important will be to see how normal Iranians will accept this and I have feeling no one there will go voluntarily help to Islamic regime.

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                                        • schmaker@schmaker.euS schmaker@schmaker.eu
                                          @randahl Correct me if I'm wrong, but Iran is suplying Russia, so if Iran gets busy, no more weapons for Russia - they actually may ask for weapons from Russia.
                                          nicovel0@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @schmaker @schmaker @randahl it might, but if the result is another war in the Middle East (Pakistan is already at war with Afghanistan, Israel is spreading in Syria and has plans on Lebanon etc), the total result may well be much more war.

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