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Would you be surprised to find out that the facebook "smart" glasses have been outsourcing the video for review and processing to Nairobi?

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    @secretsloth

    Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

    It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

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    Attached: 1 image I need a name for this moment, this emotion. Christina: "Hey, Brent I was triple charged for my subscription, can you help me?" Brent: "Hi, Christina, I'm Brent, how can I help you today." It's all those little moments were you think "no, this is bad. This is not more efficient, this is not high tech. This is just bad."

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    @futurebird @secretsloth

    SOOOOOO much this.
    I think it’s part patriarchy tech bro capitalism culture eliminating creative voices that aren’t seeking profit over the actual product and idea, and consumer happiness.
    They don’t care about the end result at all.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @5ciFiGirl @somafm

      Not so funny anymore. More like something you'd say to your date on the bus as a sober warning.

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      @futurebird
      I wonder why “glassholes” got laughed out of the house a couple years ago but not this new crop? Metahole just doesn’t have a ring to it.

      @5ciFiGirl @somafm

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        @secretsloth

        The glasses could be the same color and have other indications how they are linked. So it's obvious that when you have them on the person helping you could see what you see and talk you through it while showing you exactly how it's done.

        It could be a really useful teaching and assistive technology.

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        @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          Would you be surprised to find out that the facebook "smart" glasses have been outsourcing the video for review and processing to Nairobi?

          Wealthy people once lived with vast staffs who cooked and cleaned for them, and who often knew intimate details of the lives of the powerful.

          Now we have found a way for the rich to outsource ... thinking. Off-load mental work to minds half way around the world. We are suppose to pretend AI is doing this work.

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          ICO writes to Meta over 'concerning' AI smart glasses report

          Videos, including of glasses-wearers using the toilet or having sex, are sometimes reviewed by a Kenya-based subcontractor.

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          @futurebird

          Epstein eyewear

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            @secretsloth

            Why don't ya'll ever want to invent anything useful or exciting?

            It's just facial recognition for the secret police, sex spy cams, random people looking at your underwear, creepy stuff and never someone showing you how to do a knit and purl correctly, never making going up the stairs easier for people with limited vision, never a damn good idea. I'm doing this again:

            Link Preview Image
            myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

            Attached: 1 image I need a name for this moment, this emotion. Christina: "Hey, Brent I was triple charged for my subscription, can you help me?" Brent: "Hi, Christina, I'm Brent, how can I help you today." It's all those little moments were you think "no, this is bad. This is not more efficient, this is not high tech. This is just bad."

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            @futurebird @secretsloth This is actually an improvement!!
            Twenty years ago, I had to deal with a customer service that was SAVING MONEY by hiring just any random high schooler.
            Bad. Not only didn't understand the problem, but "solved" it by doing something random, "Thank you, sir", and hanging up.
            Went through that at least three times before reaching the last actual person on staff. They looked at the log and started laughing.

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            • lilithian@pagan.plusL lilithian@pagan.plus

              @futurebird why would you have sex with these on

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              @lilithian @futurebird is it possible they can continue recording after taking them off? Where do you set your glasses down in a bedroom?
              So is it possible some of these cases weren't even purposeful?

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              • cubeofcheese@mstdn.socialC cubeofcheese@mstdn.social

                @lilithian @futurebird is it possible they can continue recording after taking them off? Where do you set your glasses down in a bedroom?
                So is it possible some of these cases weren't even purposeful?

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                @cubeofcheese @lilithian

                " is it possible they can continue recording after taking them off? "

                Yes they outline one such case in the article I think.

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                • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                  @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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                  @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth That seems like a genuinely cool use of technology that is probably quite feasible to do WELL now and also likely would be appreciated by actual people in those jobs (easier than context switching to look at a maintenance log on some other screen or whatever). But also one that you REALLY can't use an LLM for because getting it wrong even a little could be disastrous.

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                  • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                    @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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                    @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth That was why I was tempted to put a preorder on LaForge glasses. Of course, they turned out to be vaporware.

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                    • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                      @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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                      @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth I remember this being a literal plot device in Michael Crichton’s AIRFRAME. It seemed so cool and obviously useful!

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                      • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                        @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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                        @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth I went to a VR-adjacent trade show like ... 20 years ago?... and aircraft maintenance AR was a thing a bunch of people were working towards. I don't know if it didn't pan out, or if it's old hat now, or what

                        Even without real lock-to-the-environment AR, a HUD with next steps and instructions seems like it should be super useful when your hands are full of tools

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          Would you be surprised to find out that the facebook "smart" glasses have been outsourcing the video for review and processing to Nairobi?

                          Wealthy people once lived with vast staffs who cooked and cleaned for them, and who often knew intimate details of the lives of the powerful.

                          Now we have found a way for the rich to outsource ... thinking. Off-load mental work to minds half way around the world. We are suppose to pretend AI is doing this work.

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                          ICO writes to Meta over 'concerning' AI smart glasses report

                          Videos, including of glasses-wearers using the toilet or having sex, are sometimes reviewed by a Kenya-based subcontractor.

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                          (www.bbc.com)

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                          @futurebird

                          Mechanical turk.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            @lilithian

                            I think we know why in some cases. It's a power thing in a way. A kind of exhibitionism.

                            Also they may save the video for later.

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                            @futurebird@sauropods.win @lilithian@pagan.plus

                            they may save the video for later

                            this is litrrally black mirror plot <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://outerheaven.club/emoji/blobcat/blobcatgrimacing.png" title=":blobcatgrimacing:" />
                            (not that we haven't had enough black mirror irl already)

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                            • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                              @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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                              @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth yea it turns out that having incredibly detailed 3d models of every component involved is many orders of magnitude more expensive than anticipated, both computationally and in personal labor.
                              I've been involved in modern AR for the past two years and my takeaway is it's still not even close to ready. Not the hardware, not the infrastructure, not the programming models, and don't get me started on the UX.

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                              • hattifattener@wandering.shopH hattifattener@wandering.shop

                                @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth I went to a VR-adjacent trade show like ... 20 years ago?... and aircraft maintenance AR was a thing a bunch of people were working towards. I don't know if it didn't pan out, or if it's old hat now, or what

                                Even without real lock-to-the-environment AR, a HUD with next steps and instructions seems like it should be super useful when your hands are full of tools

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                                @hattifattener @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth the headsets that have the resolution you need for that kind of HUD are some combination of too heavy, too expensive, and obscure vision to much. There are people working on it still but it's not there.

                                Also concerns about deskilling, outages, ongoing costs...

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                                • r343l@freeradical.zoneR r343l@freeradical.zone

                                  @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth That seems like a genuinely cool use of technology that is probably quite feasible to do WELL now and also likely would be appreciated by actual people in those jobs (easier than context switching to look at a maintenance log on some other screen or whatever). But also one that you REALLY can't use an LLM for because getting it wrong even a little could be disastrous.

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                                  @r343l @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth > But also one that you REALLY can't use an LLM for because getting it wrong even a little could be disastrous.

                                  For LLM fans there is no such thing. Modern AR development is riddled with it.

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                                  • llewelly@sauropods.winL llewelly@sauropods.win

                                    @futurebird no, I thought Canvas had thoroughly monopolized all the underpaid overworked workers of Nairobi in its surveillance of US, CA, and EU students. Kind of impressed there are some left over for meta's raybans.

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                                    @llewelly @futurebird They jumped ship to become paid voyeurs.

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      Would you be surprised to find out that the facebook "smart" glasses have been outsourcing the video for review and processing to Nairobi?

                                      Wealthy people once lived with vast staffs who cooked and cleaned for them, and who often knew intimate details of the lives of the powerful.

                                      Now we have found a way for the rich to outsource ... thinking. Off-load mental work to minds half way around the world. We are suppose to pretend AI is doing this work.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      ICO writes to Meta over 'concerning' AI smart glasses report

                                      Videos, including of glasses-wearers using the toilet or having sex, are sometimes reviewed by a Kenya-based subcontractor.

                                      favicon

                                      (www.bbc.com)

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                                      @futurebird so this time ‘AI’ is African Intelligence?

                                      To think, we could have invested trillions into that, but instead we gave it to techbros.

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                                      • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                                        @futurebird @secretsloth when AR started being a thing I thought “oh wow, airplane engine repair people could get an entire HUD for part status, last replacement time, and schematics when they look at a thing” and while it turned out that was wildly ambitious for the tech at the time, no one seems to even be trying to do things like that because surveillance, games, and porn make more money.

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                                        Aw, I knew someone working on exactly that HUD decades ago! I thought it had become useful. Maybe only at Boeing? …maybe only old Boeing?

                                        @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth

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                                        • kevingranade@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kevingranade@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @r343l @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth > But also one that you REALLY can't use an LLM for because getting it wrong even a little could be disastrous.

                                          For LLM fans there is no such thing. Modern AR development is riddled with it.

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                                          @kevingranade @complexmath @futurebird @secretsloth Depressingly unsurprising. But thinking about for something like airplane repair, it seems absurd to even consider using an LLM. 😕

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