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No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading".

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  • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

    No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.

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    @zsmb13 if they continue, I will open a PR in their repo to rename adb install to adb sideload. They should rename all of it - command, docs, etc. I'm so sick of that term. It's exactly as scary and intentional as the urgency scammers use while scamming.

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    • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

      How do these theoretical scammers get you to download a fake app from outside a store, by the way? By making you go to a website first to get it? Seems like they could just have you open a fake website at that point, which would be much much easier to do.

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      @zsmb13 and the website is very often reached through a scammer using scam ads served by Google Ads. Lmao.

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      • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

        No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.

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        @zsmb13 If you can't install & run your choice of software on it, it's not your device.

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        • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

          No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.

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          @zsmb13 I usually sideload bread into my toaster. I buy bread from a different company than that which made my toaster.

          (Well, I load the bread in from the top like a normal toaster. 😉 )

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          • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

            No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.

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            @zsmb13 This is not the first time I've heard this, but to me, sideload was always just the obvious extension of upload and download.

            When did it become a negative term rather than just a useful name for a slightly different process?

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            • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

              No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.

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              @zsmb13 Apple set the precedent, and the precedent they set was "hahahano".

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              • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

                No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.

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                @zsmb13

                You own the device, but Google owns Android.

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                • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

                  No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.

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                  patricus@gts.posix.live
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                  @zsmb13 yeah, assholes call freedom something optional

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                  • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

                    No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.

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                    patricus@gts.posix.live
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                    @zsmb13 why not call buying a phone renting it from scumbags, at that point?

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                    • zsmb13@androiddev.socialZ zsmb13@androiddev.social

                      How do these theoretical scammers get you to download a fake app from outside a store, by the way? By making you go to a website first to get it? Seems like they could just have you open a fake website at that point, which would be much much easier to do.

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                      @zsmb13

                      And a lot of usecases people say, about this thing protecting from literal spyware/stalkerware, are assuming that it is not google-certified already, and that it cannot get certified either because ones who made it are affiliated with governments google must abide law of, or with by paying google under a different identity every once in a while and hiding app functionality better.
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