No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading".
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It sort of makes sense to put app installations behind a warning. Sure, you should think about what you're installing. But having an authority that can prevent it arbitrarily or a mechanism that can block you from using your device as you want for 24 hours (!) is ridiculous.
How do these theoretical scammers get you to download a fake app from outside a store, by the way? By making you go to a website first to get it? Seems like they could just have you open a fake website at that point, which would be much much easier to do.
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It sort of makes sense to put app installations behind a warning. Sure, you should think about what you're installing. But having an authority that can prevent it arbitrarily or a mechanism that can block you from using your device as you want for 24 hours (!) is ridiculous.
@zsmb13 imagine for a moment Apple or Microsoft simplement such system on MacOS or Windows. "Please reboot and wait for a day" 🫠
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No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.
@zsmb13 if they continue, I will open a PR in their repo to rename adb install to adb sideload. They should rename all of it - command, docs, etc. I'm so sick of that term. It's exactly as scary and intentional as the urgency scammers use while scamming.
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How do these theoretical scammers get you to download a fake app from outside a store, by the way? By making you go to a website first to get it? Seems like they could just have you open a fake website at that point, which would be much much easier to do.
@zsmb13 and the website is very often reached through a scammer using scam ads served by Google Ads. Lmao.
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No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.
@zsmb13 If you can't install & run your choice of software on it, it's not your device.
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No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.
@zsmb13 I usually sideload bread into my toaster. I buy bread from a different company than that which made my toaster.
(Well, I load the bread in from the top like a normal toaster.
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No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.
@zsmb13 This is not the first time I've heard this, but to me, sideload was always just the obvious extension of upload and download.
When did it become a negative term rather than just a useful name for a slightly different process?
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No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.
@zsmb13 Apple set the precedent, and the precedent they set was "hahahano".
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No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.
You own the device, but Google owns Android.
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No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.
@zsmb13 yeah, assholes call freedom something optional
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No, no, and still no. Installing an app on an Android device you've purchased and fully own is not "sideloading". It's just... using your device. Nothing more. Let's not pretend even for a second that "sideloading" is a normal term to describe this.
@zsmb13 why not call buying a phone renting it from scumbags, at that point?
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How do these theoretical scammers get you to download a fake app from outside a store, by the way? By making you go to a website first to get it? Seems like they could just have you open a fake website at that point, which would be much much easier to do.
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And a lot of usecases people say, about this thing protecting from literal spyware/stalkerware, are assuming that it is not google-certified already, and that it cannot get certified either because ones who made it are affiliated with governments google must abide law of, or with by paying google under a different identity every once in a while and hiding app functionality better. -
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