This map shows the cost of charging an EV at home across the U.S.
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@Sheril also very VERY expensive to set up the whole home charging station (if u even own a home to begin with)
@lemizy @Sheril See Technology Connections' latest video on the topic. It does not have to be "VERY expensive" to charge an EV at home. You can slow charge using a standard US 120V outlet, you can repurpose a dryer outlet. Most people could get by with level 1 (120V) charging for their daily commutes. The bigger issue is that EV charging is not available to most renters in the US and even providing some 120V outlets would go a long way to alleviate this.
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At home. What does it cost at a public quick charging station, equivalent per gallon?
@Chancerubbage
Prices vary wildly at public EV charging stations, but they are almost always cheaper per mile than gas.
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This map shows the cost of charging an EV at home across the U.S. Home-charging is significantly cheaper in all 50 states than fueling a car with gasoline.
Source: Yale https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2026/04/whats-cheaper-fueling-your-car-with-gas-or-electricity/ #energy #uspol
@Sheril nah thats so cheap, what??? Here in adelaide its like 3 dollars off peak and 6 dollars on peak
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Its a lot less if you have solar on your roof... The equivalent of making your own gasoline at home
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This map shows the cost of charging an EV at home across the U.S. Home-charging is significantly cheaper in all 50 states than fueling a car with gasoline.
Source: Yale https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2026/04/whats-cheaper-fueling-your-car-with-gas-or-electricity/ #energy #uspol
How much does it cost to use an electric train?
Where is the infrastructure for mass transit?
Why are personal vehicles still hailed as a viable answer to climate change's problems?
The sea is rising ever faster.
Elon's cars aren't helping anyone but Elon, and he's digging underground to hide from the rising tide.
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This map shows the cost of charging an EV at home across the U.S. Home-charging is significantly cheaper in all 50 states than fueling a car with gasoline.
Source: Yale https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2026/04/whats-cheaper-fueling-your-car-with-gas-or-electricity/ #energy #uspol
@Sheril Interesting to see that the only state in which charging an EV is more expensive than in California is in Hawaii. Why is that? What can we do about it?
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How much does it cost to use an electric train?
Where is the infrastructure for mass transit?
Why are personal vehicles still hailed as a viable answer to climate change's problems?
The sea is rising ever faster.
Elon's cars aren't helping anyone but Elon, and he's digging underground to hide from the rising tide.
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More trash for the heap. What is your point?
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More trash for the heap. What is your point?
@Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril What's yours? You're in favour of restricting disabled people to their homes? And you know that public transport can be EVs too? Trains, buses, etc. There are reasons for transport which aren't just individual people as well.
Why do you think it's an either/or? And I wouldn't touch a Tesla with a ten foot pole either but he's hardly the only option these days. -
@Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril What's yours? You're in favour of restricting disabled people to their homes? And you know that public transport can be EVs too? Trains, buses, etc. There are reasons for transport which aren't just individual people as well.
Why do you think it's an either/or? And I wouldn't touch a Tesla with a ten foot pole either but he's hardly the only option these days.In my ideal world disabled people wouldn't need cars at all. Ever heard of a 15 minute city?
In fact, I would rather people just left cities entirely and lived in small communities taking care of each other like we did before we were all enslaved by people like Elon Musk.
I'm sick of people pretending they're saving the world by buying an electric car, it's a lie.
Stop fooling yourselves. It's pathetic.
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@Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril What's yours? You're in favour of restricting disabled people to their homes? And you know that public transport can be EVs too? Trains, buses, etc. There are reasons for transport which aren't just individual people as well.
Why do you think it's an either/or? And I wouldn't touch a Tesla with a ten foot pole either but he's hardly the only option these days.I must insist you scroll up and look at my original comment. I am quite aware of the fact EVs are not all cars.
Idk what kind of day you are having, but I hope the rest of it goes better.
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In my ideal world disabled people wouldn't need cars at all. Ever heard of a 15 minute city?
In fact, I would rather people just left cities entirely and lived in small communities taking care of each other like we did before we were all enslaved by people like Elon Musk.
I'm sick of people pretending they're saving the world by buying an electric car, it's a lie.
Stop fooling yourselves. It's pathetic.
@Sea1Am @ariaflame @noodlemaz @Sheril Be the change you want to see in the world. Go live your life in a little communal town. Then once you're there (after you've worked your sustainable farm plot, shorn your sheep, contributed to the community goods, and helped your neighbor build their barn) you can safely scold others on the internet for living unsustainable lives.
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@Sheril Interesting to see that the only state in which charging an EV is more expensive than in California is in Hawaii. Why is that? What can we do about it?
@ELS @Sheril Because much electricity generation in the US comes from burning fossil fuels, which are costly to import to such an isolated location. And having an interstate connected grid helps offset costs from supply-demand mismatch, which is something Hawaii doesn't have.
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@Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril What's yours? You're in favour of restricting disabled people to their homes? And you know that public transport can be EVs too? Trains, buses, etc. There are reasons for transport which aren't just individual people as well.
Why do you think it's an either/or? And I wouldn't touch a Tesla with a ten foot pole either but he's hardly the only option these days.@ariaflame @Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril There are disabled people who "need" cars, but there are (probably) many more disabled people who can't use cars, and who instead need good public transport and good pedestrian/bicycle infrastructure.
Car societies restrict people in many more ways than they enable people.
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This map shows the cost of charging an EV at home across the U.S. Home-charging is significantly cheaper in all 50 states than fueling a car with gasoline.
Source: Yale https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2026/04/whats-cheaper-fueling-your-car-with-gas-or-electricity/ #energy #uspol
@Sheril I couldn't find any information in that article about how much electrical energy "equivalent to one gallon of gasoline" is in any useful unit.
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In my ideal world disabled people wouldn't need cars at all. Ever heard of a 15 minute city?
In fact, I would rather people just left cities entirely and lived in small communities taking care of each other like we did before we were all enslaved by people like Elon Musk.
I'm sick of people pretending they're saving the world by buying an electric car, it's a lie.
Stop fooling yourselves. It's pathetic.
@Sea1Am@mastodon.social @ariaflame@masto.ai @noodlemaz@mstdn.games @Sheril@mastodon.social I live in Las Vegas and everywhere I go is less than 6 miles away. And I should transfer my prescriptions to a closer pharmacy, then my universe would shrink to less than 3 miles.
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@ariaflame @Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril There are disabled people who "need" cars, but there are (probably) many more disabled people who can't use cars, and who instead need good public transport and good pedestrian/bicycle infrastructure.
Car societies restrict people in many more ways than they enable people.
@ahltorp @Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril We therefore need a mix. Good public transport, but for the times that individual (or group, or for goods transport) vehicle is needed, we want EV versions. We also should have good bike lanes, footpaths for easy walking etc. Better organisation of residential areas so that shops etc. are not long distances away.
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In my ideal world disabled people wouldn't need cars at all. Ever heard of a 15 minute city?
In fact, I would rather people just left cities entirely and lived in small communities taking care of each other like we did before we were all enslaved by people like Elon Musk.
I'm sick of people pretending they're saving the world by buying an electric car, it's a lie.
Stop fooling yourselves. It's pathetic.
@Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril You were the one implying people thought that. I certainly don't. But it's not a trivial exercise to shift everyone to your perfect community.
In some ways the people who want perfection before they want any change are almost worse than those who don't want any change at all.
But since I want to enjoy the rest of my evening I'll leave it there.
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@ahltorp @Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril We therefore need a mix. Good public transport, but for the times that individual (or group, or for goods transport) vehicle is needed, we want EV versions. We also should have good bike lanes, footpaths for easy walking etc. Better organisation of residential areas so that shops etc. are not long distances away.
@ariaflame @Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril What we really need is a shift to a non-car-centric model. Cars can exist, sure, but they should not be the prioritised mode of transport. Cars should always be treated as the exception, and car-centric design should not be allowed to make using other modes of transport significantly worse.
This is not only about cities, in non-city environments roads have been made unusable for all vulnerable road users in large parts of the world.
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@ariaflame @Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril What we really need is a shift to a non-car-centric model. Cars can exist, sure, but they should not be the prioritised mode of transport. Cars should always be treated as the exception, and car-centric design should not be allowed to make using other modes of transport significantly worse.
This is not only about cities, in non-city environments roads have been made unusable for all vulnerable road users in large parts of the world.
@ariaflame @Sea1Am @noodlemaz @Sheril Car-centric culture is dependent on threat of violence to keep vulnerable road users off the road. It is vital to car-centric culture that people using roads or streets in ways that slow down car traffic are regularly maimed or killed, in order to instill a high threat level.
This is a very uncomfortable truth, but is easily realised once you actually think about it. Violence against pedestrians and bicycle users is not a side effect.
