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A new article in STAT News is even more optimistic than I am about #COVID19.

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  • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

    A new article in STAT News is even more optimistic than I am about #COVID19. In interviews with experts, many think COVID is becoming “just another one of the viruses that make people sick with cold or flu-like symptoms.” Long COVID is mentioned late in the article but says "the incidence has declined.”

    My concern is the article suggests “annual boosting is probably not doing much for people who aren’t at high risk.”

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    @augieray I just answered on this post about the omission of dangers posed as long Covid. Organ and immune damage is still a major concern.

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    • gdac@mastodon.worldG gdac@mastodon.world

      @augieray I just answered on this post about the omission of dangers posed as long Covid. Organ and immune damage is still a major concern.

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      @Gdac I agree with you. That said, given wastewater trends, reinfections are much less common, and that means so is LC. Moreover, I am seeing more studies that suggest some of these dangers are diminishing, either due to COVID's evolution or our collective immunity. Notice I say diminishing, not disappearing.

      I think it's possible that by 2027, COVID's dangers may come to match those of flu, which also can leave some with chronic issues. I am hopeful, but still careful.

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      • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

        @Gdac I agree with you. That said, given wastewater trends, reinfections are much less common, and that means so is LC. Moreover, I am seeing more studies that suggest some of these dangers are diminishing, either due to COVID's evolution or our collective immunity. Notice I say diminishing, not disappearing.

        I think it's possible that by 2027, COVID's dangers may come to match those of flu, which also can leave some with chronic issues. I am hopeful, but still careful.

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        @augieray @Gdac So the argument is between immunity versus evolution for the cause of the low rates? I guess if a big new varient shows up we will find out then which it is. I'm older, and that's the big high risk group still. But when older people drop dead, everyone says "meh, they were old'.

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        • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

          A new article in STAT News is even more optimistic than I am about #COVID19. In interviews with experts, many think COVID is becoming “just another one of the viruses that make people sick with cold or flu-like symptoms.” Long COVID is mentioned late in the article but says "the incidence has declined.”

          My concern is the article suggests “annual boosting is probably not doing much for people who aren’t at high risk.”

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          What happened to Covid?

          Experts analyze why Covid severity has declined, who still benefits from booster shots, and if a once-feared virus is now more like plain old colds or flu.

          favicon

          STAT (www.statnews.com)

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          @augieray
          The common cold does not kill 64000 us citizens a year. Thats ~2x the 2019 car fatality rate in the US. And it's almost certainly an undercount.

          The paper stream relentlessly crossing our desks laughs at this typical minimizer characterization of becoming "just a cold" and "nuisance". The underlying mechanisms have not changed. SARS2 did not suddenly change the receptors it binds to.

          This "evolution to mild" trope is not new and has been argued extensively before. I have still not seen any actual evidence that shows it's an actual evolutionary pattern. It is always a ID or IPAC minimizer argument from authority.

          IMO its just same old survivorship bias, normalcy bias and optimism bias with big heapings of merchant of doubt.

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          • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

            @Gdac I agree with you. That said, given wastewater trends, reinfections are much less common, and that means so is LC. Moreover, I am seeing more studies that suggest some of these dangers are diminishing, either due to COVID's evolution or our collective immunity. Notice I say diminishing, not disappearing.

            I think it's possible that by 2027, COVID's dangers may come to match those of flu, which also can leave some with chronic issues. I am hopeful, but still careful.

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            @augieray
            Sorry, which ones? I would like to look more closely as maybe I missed them.
            @Gdac

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            • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

              @Gdac I agree with you. That said, given wastewater trends, reinfections are much less common, and that means so is LC. Moreover, I am seeing more studies that suggest some of these dangers are diminishing, either due to COVID's evolution or our collective immunity. Notice I say diminishing, not disappearing.

              I think it's possible that by 2027, COVID's dangers may come to match those of flu, which also can leave some with chronic issues. I am hopeful, but still careful.

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              @augieray if studies show less LC then I wonder why it’s impacting children so heavily. Still skeptical.

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              • gdac@mastodon.worldG gdac@mastodon.world

                @augieray if studies show less LC then I wonder why it’s impacting children so heavily. Still skeptical.

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                @Gdac That's easy to answer--unlike adults with prior infections and vaccinations offering some protection, children have none. COVID is still a "new" virus to them, and with less than 1 in 10 children in the US getting vaccinated with with the 2025/25 vaccine, they are wildly under-protected.

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                • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                  @Gdac That's easy to answer--unlike adults with prior infections and vaccinations offering some protection, children have none. COVID is still a "new" virus to them, and with less than 1 in 10 children in the US getting vaccinated with with the 2025/25 vaccine, they are wildly under-protected.

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                  @augieray One of the reasons articles such as this one should not downplay the dangers of Covid especially for children.

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                  • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                    @Gdac That's easy to answer--unlike adults with prior infections and vaccinations offering some protection, children have none. COVID is still a "new" virus to them, and with less than 1 in 10 children in the US getting vaccinated with with the 2025/25 vaccine, they are wildly under-protected.

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                    @augieray by the way I’ve been following you for quite some time and I appreciate your amplifying Covid research !🙏

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                    • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                      A new article in STAT News is even more optimistic than I am about #COVID19. In interviews with experts, many think COVID is becoming “just another one of the viruses that make people sick with cold or flu-like symptoms.” Long COVID is mentioned late in the article but says "the incidence has declined.”

                      My concern is the article suggests “annual boosting is probably not doing much for people who aren’t at high risk.”

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                      Link Preview Image
                      What happened to Covid?

                      Experts analyze why Covid severity has declined, who still benefits from booster shots, and if a once-feared virus is now more like plain old colds or flu.

                      favicon

                      STAT (www.statnews.com)

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                      @augieray

                      Still killing hundreds a week and putting people at risk of long covid. I just got my booster this last week and think everyone should. I'd rather have it "not doing anything much for me" than be sick.

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                      • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD darwinwoodka@mastodon.social

                        @augieray

                        Still killing hundreds a week and putting people at risk of long covid. I just got my booster this last week and think everyone should. I'd rather have it "not doing anything much for me" than be sick.

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                        @darwinwoodka True. I still get my booster as well. And I mask when I can.

                        Still, I'd point out that driving kills hundreds a week, but it doesn't prevent anyone from using their car.

                        Everyone must make their own decision, but I'm doing more dining out with friends (in less crowded places at off times), given the current viral activity. I will pull back my activities during summer if/when COVID surges, but I'm enjoying the lowest COVID levels in four years!

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                        • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                          @darwinwoodka True. I still get my booster as well. And I mask when I can.

                          Still, I'd point out that driving kills hundreds a week, but it doesn't prevent anyone from using their car.

                          Everyone must make their own decision, but I'm doing more dining out with friends (in less crowded places at off times), given the current viral activity. I will pull back my activities during summer if/when COVID surges, but I'm enjoying the lowest COVID levels in four years!

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                          @augieray

                          Yup, I mostly follow three Cs now but I always have a mask with me. We do eat out often and try to do so in less crowded places and off times.

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