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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 03 - 18 Feb - Ravières - Dijon - Culmont Chalindrey - Paris – Genève

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @TimWardCam why are tourists taking trains? They drive like any normal person.

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    @jon A couple of years after the wall came down we toured round Austria, Czechoslovakia and Hungary by train, as that was the preferred mode of transport for all the eastern bloc spy movies.

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      I’ve seen some pretty weird stuff on #CrossBorderRail but for the sheer “no one even thought about the passengers”-ness this is one of the most extreme cases I’ve seen. Anywhere.

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      #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 7 of 80
      TER 39552
      09:26 Culmont Chalindrey - Paris Est 12:16
      SNCF for TER Fluo Grand Est

      Train type: Alstom Coradia Bi-mode MU, 6 short carriages
      ⛽️, ⚡️ (25kV ac)
      🚲: ✅
      🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows)
      🛜: ⛔️
      🍽️: ⛔️
      🧳: 🙂
      🧽: 🙂
      Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €1,70)

      Link Preview Image
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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        I’ve seen some pretty weird stuff on #CrossBorderRail but for the sheer “no one even thought about the passengers”-ness this is one of the most extreme cases I’ve seen. Anywhere.

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        @jon another fine installment in the chronicles of the Société nationale des chemins de Fuck You

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          🤯

          So @12train makes it clear

          The train is COMPULSORY RESERVATION

          AAAAGGGGHHHHH

          It’s a regional train for a 47 minute trip

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          #73

          @jon
          But if you are abonné than it's not compulsory reservation, we love french ticketing.
          @12train

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          • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

            @jon A couple of years after the wall came down we toured round Austria, Czechoslovakia and Hungary by train, as that was the preferred mode of transport for all the eastern bloc spy movies.

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            #74

            @TimWardCam you should have bough a Trabi. Obviously! 🙄

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 7 of 80
              TER 39552
              09:26 Culmont Chalindrey - Paris Est 12:16
              SNCF for TER Fluo Grand Est

              Train type: Alstom Coradia Bi-mode MU, 6 short carriages
              ⛽️, ⚡️ (25kV ac)
              🚲: ✅
              🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows)
              🛜: ⛔️
              🍽️: ⛔️
              🧳: 🙂
              🧽: 🙂
              Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €1,70)

              Link Preview Image
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              #75

              TER 39552
              09:26 Culmont Chalindrey - Paris Est 12:16

              Distance: 307.1km
              Average speed: 108km/h

              8 stops:
              Langres
              Chaumont
              Bar-sur-Aube
              Vendeuvre
              Troyes
              Romilly-sur-Seine
              Nogent-sur-Seine
              Paris Est

              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.361724/3.900146

              #CrossBorderRail

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              • _hemmschuh@zug.network_ _hemmschuh@zug.network

                @jon
                But if you are abonné than it's not compulsory reservation, we love french ticketing.
                @12train

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                @_Hemmschuh fuck off SNCF really. Let’s make it extra hard for irregular travellers, just the ones we need to entice to take the train!

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  @TimWardCam you should have bough a Trabi. Obviously! 🙄

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                  @jon 😂 We saw plenty - they were still around.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    TER 39552
                    09:26 Culmont Chalindrey - Paris Est 12:16

                    Distance: 307.1km
                    Average speed: 108km/h

                    8 stops:
                    Langres
                    Chaumont
                    Bar-sur-Aube
                    Vendeuvre
                    Troyes
                    Romilly-sur-Seine
                    Nogent-sur-Seine
                    Paris Est

                    This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.361724/3.900146

                    #CrossBorderRail

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                    #78

                    I’m too German. I can’t tolerate this sort of bullshit

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                      @drnoble I know @technicalotter knows a lot about railways. I think they’re confused why a regional train needs this!

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        @drnoble I know @technicalotter knows a lot about railways. I think they’re confused why a regional train needs this!

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                        @jon @drnoble

                        Yep. I am unfortunatly burdened with too much knowledge of the railways (occupational hazard of the PhD project/neurospicy).

                        I'm amazed that you not only have to have seat reso's on a regional, but that one has to PAY! I already paid for the damn ticket!

                        I criticise the British ticketing a lot, but at least our reservations are free and (mostly) work!

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          I’m too German. I can’t tolerate this sort of bullshit

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                          @jon I don't understand why anyone puts up with this bollocks

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            I’m too German. I can’t tolerate this sort of bullshit

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                            @jon Looking forward for a potential future holidays of yours in Trenitalia 😄

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              I also asked why these trains are compulsory reservation anyway

                              “There’s too much demand!”

                              My response: “So run more trains!”

                              “But that’s the Région’s responsibility!”

                              But what if my plans change? I asked the employee

                              “Then you have to change your ticket in the app”

                              🤷‍♂️

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                              @jon you’ve probably heard a million similar stories, but I was an a TGV International and a Swiss Interrail user was there with no reservation. There was this long back and forth of
                              “But the Interrail is a valid ticket? On every train I’ve taken before I can just get on and ride, I don’t care about reserving a seat, just being on the train”
                              “The contract says a reservation is required! Didn’t you read the contract!? You’re lucky I’m not throwing you off!”

                              Went on for 5–10 minutes

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                              • wnd@fosstodon.orgW wnd@fosstodon.org

                                @jon I don't understand why anyone puts up with this bollocks

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                                @wnd because everyone drives instead?

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                                • rafa_font@mastodon.onlineR rafa_font@mastodon.online

                                  @jon Looking forward for a potential future holidays of yours in Trenitalia 😄

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                                  #85

                                  @rafa_font it’s not as stupid in Italy. Not quite.

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                                  • h0m54r@mastodon.socialH h0m54r@mastodon.social

                                    @jon you’ve probably heard a million similar stories, but I was an a TGV International and a Swiss Interrail user was there with no reservation. There was this long back and forth of
                                    “But the Interrail is a valid ticket? On every train I’ve taken before I can just get on and ride, I don’t care about reserving a seat, just being on the train”
                                    “The contract says a reservation is required! Didn’t you read the contract!? You’re lucky I’m not throwing you off!”

                                    Went on for 5–10 minutes

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                                    @h0m54r Right. Exactly. Leaving Switzerland for France is a shock!

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      @wnd because everyone drives instead?

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                                      @jon I do wonder what the most motonormative country is here? I had always gone with the UK or Germany but the French are making a strong claim here. Certainly outside of the major urban centres.

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                                      • wnd@fosstodon.orgW wnd@fosstodon.org

                                        @jon I do wonder what the most motonormative country is here? I had always gone with the UK or Germany but the French are making a strong claim here. Certainly outside of the major urban centres.

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                                        @wnd Outside Ile de France it’s MUCH worse in France than Germany. I think it’s worse here than the UK too.

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          And discovering this sort of total ridiculous shit is why there’s no substitute for going to the places and testing the trains on #CrossBorderRail

                                          You only *get this* once you’ve experienced it

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                                          @jon We're getting to a point where SNCF employing staff for pre-boarding ticket/reservation checks on regional trains doesn't sound completly unrealistic. 🫣

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