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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 03 - 18 Feb - Ravières - Dijon - Culmont Chalindrey - Paris – Genève

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  • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

    @jon hosted by "e-Voyageurs Technologies (groupe SNCF)"

    Days since I last discovered yet another dedicated for-profit company within the public group: 0
    *sigh*

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    @hopla 😂

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    • meganl@mas.toM meganl@mas.to

      @jon I'm starting to try to plan train travel and this stuff is giving me agita...

      I always had admiration for you train advocate folks...deep knowledge. But now I'm really bowled over by how long and hard you must have worked to amass the skills to pierce all this stuff...

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      @meganL I don’t even know if I had the right reservations today or not. If even I don’t know the railway has a serious problem.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        @meganL I don’t even know if I had the right reservations today or not. If even I don’t know the railway has a serious problem.

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        @jon Now that I read back in the thread, I can see how that would be.

        At least the multilingualism must help...

        Fingers crossed for you. Thanks for illuminating for folks how cross-border rail is working in practice...

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        • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

          @partim @jon Ah that makes sense. But they are reported with 6 digits and we (Railfinder) show them like that, so there’s some processing on their export/import then.

          Starting a project after Postgres became magic helps a lot with this stuff. The liberation of ”external data? just slap it in a `text` column” without downsides :). Compared to Hafas which originally had to run on the phones of 2-3 decades ago, phew!

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          @stefanlindbohm @jon My internship back in uni was at Hacon to build a Japanese version of their Windows app. The code (obviously) assumed single byte character sets and did some formatting on it, so I built a string translation layer. That was quite fun!

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            And as the train is (partially?) compulsory reservation, but of course they don’t show what’s reserved on signs on board… they do have a website to tell you https://www.maplaceabord.com/maplacelibre/details?service-name=839552&from-station=87142000&to-station=87113001&travel-date=2026-02-18

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            @jon Voiture 6 is unreserved for non-Paris travellers?

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              @TimWardCam why are tourists taking trains? They drive like any normal person.

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              @jon A couple of years after the wall came down we toured round Austria, Czechoslovakia and Hungary by train, as that was the preferred mode of transport for all the eastern bloc spy movies.

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                I’ve seen some pretty weird stuff on #CrossBorderRail but for the sheer “no one even thought about the passengers”-ness this is one of the most extreme cases I’ve seen. Anywhere.

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                #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 7 of 80
                TER 39552
                09:26 Culmont Chalindrey - Paris Est 12:16
                SNCF for TER Fluo Grand Est

                Train type: Alstom Coradia Bi-mode MU, 6 short carriages
                ⛽️, ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                🚲: ✅
                🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows)
                🛜: ⛔️
                🍽️: ⛔️
                🧳: 🙂
                🧽: 🙂
                Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €1,70)

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  I’ve seen some pretty weird stuff on #CrossBorderRail but for the sheer “no one even thought about the passengers”-ness this is one of the most extreme cases I’ve seen. Anywhere.

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                  @jon another fine installment in the chronicles of the Société nationale des chemins de Fuck You

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    🤯

                    So @12train makes it clear

                    The train is COMPULSORY RESERVATION

                    AAAAGGGGHHHHH

                    It’s a regional train for a 47 minute trip

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                    @jon
                    But if you are abonné than it's not compulsory reservation, we love french ticketing.
                    @12train

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                    • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                      @jon A couple of years after the wall came down we toured round Austria, Czechoslovakia and Hungary by train, as that was the preferred mode of transport for all the eastern bloc spy movies.

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                      @TimWardCam you should have bough a Trabi. Obviously! 🙄

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 7 of 80
                        TER 39552
                        09:26 Culmont Chalindrey - Paris Est 12:16
                        SNCF for TER Fluo Grand Est

                        Train type: Alstom Coradia Bi-mode MU, 6 short carriages
                        ⛽️, ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                        🚲: ✅
                        🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows)
                        🛜: ⛔️
                        🍽️: ⛔️
                        🧳: 🙂
                        🧽: 🙂
                        Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €1,70)

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                        TER 39552
                        09:26 Culmont Chalindrey - Paris Est 12:16

                        Distance: 307.1km
                        Average speed: 108km/h

                        8 stops:
                        Langres
                        Chaumont
                        Bar-sur-Aube
                        Vendeuvre
                        Troyes
                        Romilly-sur-Seine
                        Nogent-sur-Seine
                        Paris Est

                        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.361724/3.900146

                        #CrossBorderRail

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                        • _hemmschuh@zug.network_ _hemmschuh@zug.network

                          @jon
                          But if you are abonné than it's not compulsory reservation, we love french ticketing.
                          @12train

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                          @_Hemmschuh fuck off SNCF really. Let’s make it extra hard for irregular travellers, just the ones we need to entice to take the train!

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            @TimWardCam you should have bough a Trabi. Obviously! 🙄

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                            @jon 😂 We saw plenty - they were still around.

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              TER 39552
                              09:26 Culmont Chalindrey - Paris Est 12:16

                              Distance: 307.1km
                              Average speed: 108km/h

                              8 stops:
                              Langres
                              Chaumont
                              Bar-sur-Aube
                              Vendeuvre
                              Troyes
                              Romilly-sur-Seine
                              Nogent-sur-Seine
                              Paris Est

                              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.361724/3.900146

                              #CrossBorderRail

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                              I’m too German. I can’t tolerate this sort of bullshit

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                                @drnoble I know @technicalotter knows a lot about railways. I think they’re confused why a regional train needs this!

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  @drnoble I know @technicalotter knows a lot about railways. I think they’re confused why a regional train needs this!

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                                  @jon @drnoble

                                  Yep. I am unfortunatly burdened with too much knowledge of the railways (occupational hazard of the PhD project/neurospicy).

                                  I'm amazed that you not only have to have seat reso's on a regional, but that one has to PAY! I already paid for the damn ticket!

                                  I criticise the British ticketing a lot, but at least our reservations are free and (mostly) work!

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    I’m too German. I can’t tolerate this sort of bullshit

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                                    @jon I don't understand why anyone puts up with this bollocks

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      I’m too German. I can’t tolerate this sort of bullshit

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                                      @jon Looking forward for a potential future holidays of yours in Trenitalia 😄

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        I also asked why these trains are compulsory reservation anyway

                                        “There’s too much demand!”

                                        My response: “So run more trains!”

                                        “But that’s the Région’s responsibility!”

                                        But what if my plans change? I asked the employee

                                        “Then you have to change your ticket in the app”

                                        🤷‍♂️

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                                        @jon you’ve probably heard a million similar stories, but I was an a TGV International and a Swiss Interrail user was there with no reservation. There was this long back and forth of
                                        “But the Interrail is a valid ticket? On every train I’ve taken before I can just get on and ride, I don’t care about reserving a seat, just being on the train”
                                        “The contract says a reservation is required! Didn’t you read the contract!? You’re lucky I’m not throwing you off!”

                                        Went on for 5–10 minutes

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                                        • wnd@fosstodon.orgW wnd@fosstodon.org

                                          @jon I don't understand why anyone puts up with this bollocks

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                                          @wnd because everyone drives instead?

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