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  • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

    Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind

    simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #18

    @AndrewRadev

    Time to tell them to fork off? 🙂🤷‍♂️

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    • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

      Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind

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      @AndrewRadev I'd like to read the thread could you help me with a link?

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      • nihilistic_capybara@layer8.spaceN nihilistic_capybara@layer8.space

        @AndrewRadev I'd like to read the thread could you help me with a link?

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        @nihilistic_capybara @AndrewRadev https://github.com/vim/vim/pull/19413#issuecomment-4000394026

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        • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

          Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind

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          #21

          @AndrewRadev Is neovim better in this regard?

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          • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

            Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind

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            @AndrewRadev just to see if I understand. Are you having an issue with using Claude code for working with code or with the fact that he addresses claude like a person?

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            • teohhanhui@mastodon.socialT teohhanhui@mastodon.social

              @nihilistic_capybara @AndrewRadev https://github.com/vim/vim/pull/19413#issuecomment-4000394026

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              @teohhanhui @AndrewRadev thank you

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              • kunev@blewsky.socialK kunev@blewsky.social

                @AndrewRadev@hachyderm.io I used to think how much nicer the internet in general and FOSS communities specifically would be if people were a bit warmer and nicer to each other. Acknowledging others' contributions and ideas, thanking each other for good points etc. instead of the popular attempts to outnerd each other on technicalities.

                Should've been more careful about what I wish for I guess...

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                @kunev "There, I fixed it"

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                • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

                  > Thank you for the detailed feedback! I've addressed all the issues:
                  > Thank you for the feedback! I agree that following the Vim 8+ naming convention makes sense.
                  > Thank you for the feedback on naming!
                  > Thanks for the suggestion! After thinking about this more, I believe repeat_set() / repeat_get() is the right choice:
                  > Thank you for the feedback. A brief clarification.

                  This isn't even rewriting his own thoughts in whatever bland style the chatbot can muster, it's just dumping people's comments into the bot and copy-pasting whatever it shits out.

                  This is The Future that boosters want: An endless bikeshedding session where agreeable chatbots trade excessively polite thank-yous and screenfuls of bullet-pointed lists. A bunch of children, getting paid to play around with tamagotchis.

                  What a bleak fucking future to dream of.

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                  @AndrewRadev everyuone I talked to when the dumbass AI boom started told me not to worry but I knew straight away vibe coding trash will make things crap. Seeing people I used to look up to when I was a young developer are now AI zombies. My current, thankfully non-dev, work is impacted a lot with certain vendors releasing updates that break a lot of basic functionality. What a f-ing mess 😞

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                  • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

                    Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind

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                    #26

                    @AndrewRadev ugh.

                    I've been using vim for like.. 15 years? I thought it was unlikely to get caught up in the fad-chasing that seems to affect so many other editors.

                    I do not want to have to switch, but now I feel like I might have to

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                    • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

                      @kunev "There, I fixed it"

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                      misschien iets voor jullie @Noortjevee

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                      • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

                        This is in a PR where Shougo, another long-time contributor, communicates entirely in walls of unparseable AI slop text: https://github.com/vim/vim/pull/19413

                        What a pathetic state after decades of active, thoughtful work. "I asked the chatbot how to write this code", "Well, I asked my chatbot, and "he" doesn't like it". What a fucking embarrassment.

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                        @AndrewRadev so many fucking comments are just abvious unedited ai output holy fuck
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                        • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

                          > Thank you for the detailed feedback! I've addressed all the issues:
                          > Thank you for the feedback! I agree that following the Vim 8+ naming convention makes sense.
                          > Thank you for the feedback on naming!
                          > Thanks for the suggestion! After thinking about this more, I believe repeat_set() / repeat_get() is the right choice:
                          > Thank you for the feedback. A brief clarification.

                          This isn't even rewriting his own thoughts in whatever bland style the chatbot can muster, it's just dumping people's comments into the bot and copy-pasting whatever it shits out.

                          This is The Future that boosters want: An endless bikeshedding session where agreeable chatbots trade excessively polite thank-yous and screenfuls of bullet-pointed lists. A bunch of children, getting paid to play around with tamagotchis.

                          What a bleak fucking future to dream of.

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                          @AndrewRadev Sounds like every corporate/business email I’ve ever received. I fucking hate that style of communicating. Maybe it’s just me, but I never say thank you in an email unless I really mean it!

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                          • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

                            Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind

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                            @AndrewRadev This might be what it takes for me to switch to Neovim, assuming they're not going the same way.

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                              @catch56 @AndrewRadev i can't put my finger on why but it feels like shougo is using ai to create the original issue and hold conversations. I don't see why chrisbra wouldn't do the same to tell him to fuck off.

                              Why would he spend the effort to read through something that someone else couldn't even be bothered to write?

                              Or am I wrong?

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                              • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

                                Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind

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                                @AndrewRadev

                                Never trust anyone who uses their toddler as their avatar. Ever.

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                                • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

                                  Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind

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                                  @AndrewRadev which means @neovim is tainted as well because it regularly pulls changes from Vim. I'm not sure if someone in the Neovim team uses LLMs as well, they probably do.

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                                  • andrewradev@hachyderm.ioA andrewradev@hachyderm.io

                                    @kunev "There, I fixed it"

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                                    @AndrewRadev @kunev I vividly remember having to discuss an essay article from the NYT or Guardian about "Visions of the future" for my English final exams in 2011.

                                    In it the author described scenes where users' soon to be ubiquitous AR glasses, might show them likable cartoon characters from their youth instead of homeless people on the street.

                                    This feels like that

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                                    • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

                                      @AndrewRadev This might be what it takes for me to switch to Neovim, assuming they're not going the same way.

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                                      @KatS @AndrewRadev There are "Claude" commits in both vim and neovim, so I'm basically committed to never upgrading ever again.

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                                      • barubary@infosec.exchangeB barubary@infosec.exchange

                                        @KatS @AndrewRadev There are "Claude" commits in both vim and neovim, so I'm basically committed to never upgrading ever again.

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                                        @barubary Oh, hell.
                                        Good to know, though; thanks.
                                        @AndrewRadev

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                                        • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

                                          @barubary Oh, hell.
                                          Good to know, though; thanks.
                                          @AndrewRadev

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                                          @barubary :exasperated groan: This may finally push me into switching to emacs, and figuring out how to make it functional as a replacement.
                                          @AndrewRadev

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