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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 31 - 4 May - Rimini - Bologna - Milano - Lugano - Basel - Strasbourg

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Interrail is a bit odd these days. In neither Trenitalia Frecciarossa or IC, nor regional trains of Trenord or Trenitalia TPER has anyone wanted to scan the Interrail QR. Do their devices not scan it?

    And a cursory look at a reservation isn’t very secure!

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    @jon I’ve seen info from Interrail that qr codes can’t be scanned in Italy but I can’t find it right now

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    • cycling_on_rails@mastodon.socialC cycling_on_rails@mastodon.social

      @stefanlindbohm @jon It's one of these frustrating cross-border cases where the service is genuinely awesome - modern trains, clockface scheduling, companies cooperating to have one end-to-end regional train between big cities - and then the passenger software is terrible.

      Same with the Léman Express around Geneva, figuring out how to buy a single cross-border ticket (advanced mode: with discount cards on both sides) without wasting time splitting tickets is terrible.

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      @cycling_on_rails Speaking of Léman Express - how DO you do that actually? 😅 It’s one of the cases I have on my radar to try to sort out.

      @jon

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      • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

        @cycling_on_rails Speaking of Léman Express - how DO you do that actually? 😅 It’s one of the cases I have on my radar to try to sort out.

        @jon

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        @stefanlindbohm @jon Short answer: buy with SBB for hassle-free quick purchase, or split in Annemasse.

        Long answer:
        - SNCF Connect doesn't work in CH.
        - You can get up to 50% off on a round-trip on this line with SNCF Carte Avantage (at off-peak times).
        - SBB doesn't know about SNCF discount cards.
        - The border station is Annemasse.

        (If you travel Geneva-Bellegarde it's simpler as the border station is Geneva so the train always stays "in France".)

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        • cycling_on_rails@mastodon.socialC cycling_on_rails@mastodon.social

          @stefanlindbohm @jon Short answer: buy with SBB for hassle-free quick purchase, or split in Annemasse.

          Long answer:
          - SNCF Connect doesn't work in CH.
          - You can get up to 50% off on a round-trip on this line with SNCF Carte Avantage (at off-peak times).
          - SBB doesn't know about SNCF discount cards.
          - The border station is Annemasse.

          (If you travel Geneva-Bellegarde it's simpler as the border station is Geneva so the train always stays "in France".)

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          @cycling_on_rails Very helpful! Thank you.

          So we should
          1) For domestic segments always use either SNCF or SBB
          2) Ticket cross-border journeys through SBB by default as one ticket
          3) Unless the user added a SNCF Carte Avantage, then split in Annemasse and use the separate systems. (Provided we add support for split tickets - we will do this sooner or later due to UK.)

          Assuming split tickets are allowed in this specific case? I guess the border crossing is what would make a difference?

          @jon

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            @knud @hopla right. Exactly. But on trains through Kehl it’s damned annoying.

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            @jon @hopla

            Yes, been there, done that several times already. Next time will be end of the month.

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              @hopla @Sobex @knud they’re not the sharpest police!

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              @jon @hopla @Sobex

              They're also not the most motivated, I assume. A recent article discussed the Bundespolizisten being away from family for weeks, staying in hotels, knowing it's just for show. That does take a toll on them as well.

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Interrail is a bit odd these days. In neither Trenitalia Frecciarossa or IC, nor regional trains of Trenord or Trenitalia TPER has anyone wanted to scan the Interrail QR. Do their devices not scan it?

                And a cursory look at a reservation isn’t very secure!

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                @jon the go live of new interrail barcodes is…. Tomorrow! I hope they have that functional

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                • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                  @cycling_on_rails Very helpful! Thank you.

                  So we should
                  1) For domestic segments always use either SNCF or SBB
                  2) Ticket cross-border journeys through SBB by default as one ticket
                  3) Unless the user added a SNCF Carte Avantage, then split in Annemasse and use the separate systems. (Provided we add support for split tickets - we will do this sooner or later due to UK.)

                  Assuming split tickets are allowed in this specific case? I guess the border crossing is what would make a difference?

                  @jon

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                  @stefanlindbohm @jon Yeah no clue if splitting is officially allowed or not, but in practice given the cross-border context I doubt any member of staff would make a fuss. Ticket checks aren't frequent on this line anyway.

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                  • cycling_on_rails@mastodon.socialC cycling_on_rails@mastodon.social

                    @stefanlindbohm @jon Yeah no clue if splitting is officially allowed or not, but in practice given the cross-border context I doubt any member of staff would make a fuss. Ticket checks aren't frequent on this line anyway.

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                    @stefanlindbohm @jon It might be relevant if you buy a saver ticket (discounted train-bound) on the SBB side but the incoming French train was delayed/cancelled.

                    Once my train caught delay between Annemasse and Geneva so I missed my connection, but as I was already on a Swiss ticket from Annemasse the train-bound restriction was levied as customary. However I was surprised that the ticket inspector didn't see a warning about it upfront & I had to tell them to check the delayed train's schedule.

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Interrail is a bit odd these days. In neither Trenitalia Frecciarossa or IC, nor regional trains of Trenord or Trenitalia TPER has anyone wanted to scan the Interrail QR. Do their devices not scan it?

                      And a cursory look at a reservation isn’t very secure!

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                      @jon Renfe rarely scan the interrail ticket, or even ask to see it, and it's about 50/50 with SNCF, I've found…

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                      • knud@mastodon.socialK knud@mastodon.social

                        @jon @hopla @Sobex

                        They're also not the most motivated, I assume. A recent article discussed the Bundespolizisten being away from family for weeks, staying in hotels, knowing it's just for show. That does take a toll on them as well.

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                        @knud @hopla @Sobex right, exactly. This suits no one.

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                        • maartje@blahaj.socialM maartje@blahaj.social

                          @jon the go live of new interrail barcodes is…. Tomorrow! I hope they have that functional

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                          @maartje LOL. I‘m awaiting all sorts of shit then!

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Interrail is a bit odd these days. In neither Trenitalia Frecciarossa or IC, nor regional trains of Trenord or Trenitalia TPER has anyone wanted to scan the Interrail QR. Do their devices not scan it?

                            And a cursory look at a reservation isn’t very secure!

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                            #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 106 of 125
                            IC 680
                            14:02 Lugano - Basel SBB 16:55
                            SBB

                            Train type: Bombardier Twindexx EMU, 8 double deck carriages
                            ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                            🚲: ✅
                            🦽: ✅ (step free)
                            🛜: ⛔️
                            🍽️: ✅
                            🧳: 🙂 (as double deck designs go, it’s good)
                            🧽: 🙂
                            Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                              #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 106 of 125
                              IC 680
                              14:02 Lugano - Basel SBB 16:55
                              SBB

                              Train type: Bombardier Twindexx EMU, 8 double deck carriages
                              ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                              🚲: ✅
                              🦽: ✅ (step free)
                              🛜: ⛔️
                              🍽️: ✅
                              🧳: 🙂 (as double deck designs go, it’s good)
                              🧽: 🙂
                              Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

                              Link Preview Image
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                              IC 680
                              14:02 Lugano - Basel SBB 16:55

                              Distance: 263.9km
                              Average speed: 92km/h

                              5 stops:
                              Bellinzona
                              Arth-Goldau
                              Luzern
                              Olten
                              Basel SBB

                              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/46.781301/8.315225

                              #CrossBorderRail

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                                IC 680
                                14:02 Lugano - Basel SBB 16:55

                                Distance: 263.9km
                                Average speed: 92km/h

                                5 stops:
                                Bellinzona
                                Arth-Goldau
                                Luzern
                                Olten
                                Basel SBB

                                This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/46.781301/8.315225

                                #CrossBorderRail

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                                #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 107 of 125
                                TER 96234
                                17:21 Basel SBB - Strasbourg 18:39
                                SNCF for TER Fluo Grand Est

                                Train type: GEC Alsthom, MTE BB 26000 locomotive, 8 Corail carriages, driving control car
                                ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                                🚲: ✅
                                🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                                🛜: ⛔️
                                🍽️: ⛔️
                                🧳: 😐 (narrow doors, high steps)
                                🧽: 😐 (it has been cleaned sometime in the past 12 months, which is progress, but still grimy)
                                Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                                  #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 107 of 125
                                  TER 96234
                                  17:21 Basel SBB - Strasbourg 18:39
                                  SNCF for TER Fluo Grand Est

                                  Train type: GEC Alsthom, MTE BB 26000 locomotive, 8 Corail carriages, driving control car
                                  ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                                  🚲: ✅
                                  🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                                  🛜: ⛔️
                                  🍽️: ⛔️
                                  🧳: 😐 (narrow doors, high steps)
                                  🧽: 😐 (it has been cleaned sometime in the past 12 months, which is progress, but still grimy)
                                  Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

                                  Link Preview Image
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                                  TER 96234
                                  17:21 Basel SBB - Strasbourg 18:39

                                  Distance: 142km
                                  Average speed: 109km/h

                                  5 stops:
                                  St-Louis
                                  Mulhouse Ville
                                  Colmar
                                  Sélestat
                                  Strasbourg

                                  This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.067068/7.498169

                                  #CrossBorderRail

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 106 of 125
                                    IC 680
                                    14:02 Lugano - Basel SBB 16:55
                                    SBB

                                    Train type: Bombardier Twindexx EMU, 8 double deck carriages
                                    ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                                    🚲: ✅
                                    🦽: ✅ (step free)
                                    🛜: ⛔️
                                    🍽️: ✅
                                    🧳: 🙂 (as double deck designs go, it’s good)
                                    🧽: 🙂
                                    Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

                                    Link Preview Image
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                                    @jon since when does the IC Lugano - Basel pass through Winterthur? 🤪

                                    I guess it's just a Stock Photo from you 😅

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                                    • k1ngdaka88@zug.networkK k1ngdaka88@zug.network

                                      @jon since when does the IC Lugano - Basel pass through Winterthur? 🤪

                                      I guess it's just a Stock Photo from you 😅

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                                      @K1ngdaKa88 I had to run in Lugano, so could not photograph it there. Sorry! 😬

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        @K1ngdaKa88 I had to run in Lugano, so could not photograph it there. Sorry! 😬

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                                        @jon thought so 🤭

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                                        • k1ngdaka88@zug.networkK k1ngdaka88@zug.network

                                          @jon thought so 🤭

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                                          @K1ngdaKa88 I probably have a photo of one in Basel somewhere. That would have been a better cheat! 🙂

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