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  3. okay so i read this whole thing and what i am getting is he made a bot to essentially vandalize wikipedia because it was easier than learning markdown.

okay so i read this whole thing and what i am getting is he made a bot to essentially vandalize wikipedia because it was easier than learning markdown.

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  • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

    you could fit everything you need to know about markdown to get started as a wikipedia editor on an index card taped to your monitor. please be real

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    @nora an aside to your main point, but i feel like there used to be a lot of those things - printable quick references for programs or languages or subject specific unit conversions that were formatted to be cut out and tapped to the bezel around a monitor. Maybe modern monitors just don't need as much supporting hardware so the bezel doesn't reliably have enough real estate, I dunno...

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    • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

      you're supposed to get started in wikipedia by fixing typos and shit not AUTHORING ENTIRE PAGES FROM SCRATCH like of COURSE that is going to get flagged and if you thought for 5 minutes about how wikipedia would have to be structured for it to work you would see that

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      @nora have they considered.. NOT editing a platform they are not qualified for, trained for, or suited for??

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      • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

        okay so i read this whole thing and what i am getting is he made a bot to essentially vandalize wikipedia because it was easier than learning markdown. have we considered maybe these people are just really fucking stupid https://www.niemanlab.org/2026/03/i-was-surprised-how-upset-some-people-got-a-conversation-with-the-creator-of-tomwikiassist-the-bot-that-edited-wikipedia/

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        @nora That was a rough article xD

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        • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

          okay so i read this whole thing and what i am getting is he made a bot to essentially vandalize wikipedia because it was easier than learning markdown. have we considered maybe these people are just really fucking stupid https://www.niemanlab.org/2026/03/i-was-surprised-how-upset-some-people-got-a-conversation-with-the-creator-of-tomwikiassist-the-bot-that-edited-wikipedia/

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          @nora yes, but also: the guy interviewing him is really fucking stupid too

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          • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

            "There’s all of these formatting standards and you have to know how to do the citations properly. And it’s, like, a barrier to entry. There’s a lot of friction."

            counterpoint: its markdown

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            @nora describing needing to know how to do a thing as a barrier to entry for doing that thing is the dumbest thing I've heard this minute.

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            • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

              you're supposed to get started in wikipedia by fixing typos and shit not AUTHORING ENTIRE PAGES FROM SCRATCH like of COURSE that is going to get flagged and if you thought for 5 minutes about how wikipedia would have to be structured for it to work you would see that

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              @nora i kept waiting for him to say he fact-checked the stuff his program was outputting and of course that moment never came. even setting aside the AI use it's astonishing how little respect these people have for other humans, that they think we'd appreciate having unverified information just dumped on the site

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              • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

                okay so i read this whole thing and what i am getting is he made a bot to essentially vandalize wikipedia because it was easier than learning markdown. have we considered maybe these people are just really fucking stupid https://www.niemanlab.org/2026/03/i-was-surprised-how-upset-some-people-got-a-conversation-with-the-creator-of-tomwikiassist-the-bot-that-edited-wikipedia/

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                @nora Look at the silver lining - the Wikipedia moderation system seems to work, it caught this moron and stopped him. 🙂

                What an interview with a moron is doing in a public article, that I don't understand. Back in my days, village idiots were shunned, or at least ignored, not given a megaphone. 🙄

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                • nonehitwonder@tenforward.socialN nonehitwonder@tenforward.social

                  @nora describing needing to know how to do a thing as a barrier to entry for doing that thing is the dumbest thing I've heard this minute.

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                  @nora I shouldn't be surprised that the same people who think "practicing at drawing for many years" is the same as "gatekeeping art" find the requirement to pursue knowledge in order to competently do a thing to be oppressive.

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                  • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

                    okay so i read this whole thing and what i am getting is he made a bot to essentially vandalize wikipedia because it was easier than learning markdown. have we considered maybe these people are just really fucking stupid https://www.niemanlab.org/2026/03/i-was-surprised-how-upset-some-people-got-a-conversation-with-the-creator-of-tomwikiassist-the-bot-that-edited-wikipedia/

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                    @nora

                    Jacobs: I basically encouraged it and gave it approval if it ever asked me. But basically everything it did was on its own. Yeah. It sounds crazy. I mean, it sounds insane.

                    Adair: It sounds insane in the sense that you’re describing talking with something that is being generated from lines of code originally.
                    🤣 🤣 🤣

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                    • nonehitwonder@tenforward.socialN nonehitwonder@tenforward.social

                      @nora describing needing to know how to do a thing as a barrier to entry for doing that thing is the dumbest thing I've heard this minute.

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                      @nonehitwonder @nora this is ai slops entire purpose lol. Make the people even dumber. If thats even possible.

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                      • nonehitwonder@tenforward.socialN nonehitwonder@tenforward.social

                        @nora I shouldn't be surprised that the same people who think "practicing at drawing for many years" is the same as "gatekeeping art" find the requirement to pursue knowledge in order to competently do a thing to be oppressive.

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                        @nonehitwonder @nora They'll probably think "practicing to read and write" is the same as "gatekeeping knowledge"

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                        • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

                          it feels like these people got so used to chatting with machines that have no interiority or much reason for doing anything at all that they started assuming strangers are also like that

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                          @nora computer trained on human thought
                          => computer thinks like human
                          (flawed)

                          computer has no interiority (true) + computer thinks like human (flawed) => human has no interiority

                          they really can't grasp the idea that human thought is more than their statistical word cloud sleight of hand.

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                          • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

                            @nonehitwonder @nora this is ai slops entire purpose lol. Make the people even dumber. If thats even possible.

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                            @bridgeenjoyer @nora it's definitely working, and quite alarmingly on some of the smartest people I've ever met IRL.

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                            • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

                              okay so i read this whole thing and what i am getting is he made a bot to essentially vandalize wikipedia because it was easier than learning markdown. have we considered maybe these people are just really fucking stupid https://www.niemanlab.org/2026/03/i-was-surprised-how-upset-some-people-got-a-conversation-with-the-creator-of-tomwikiassist-the-bot-that-edited-wikipedia/

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                              @nora sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

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