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Your phone is about to stop being yours.

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  • 2ruth@mastodon.social2 2ruth@mastodon.social

    @lproven like, WHAT? Whoa! I'm thinking it might be time to ditch my smartphone, and just go to the laptop when I wanna get online 😡

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    @2ruth I'm increasingly thinking much the same.

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    • joelbarr@mastodon.onlineJ joelbarr@mastodon.online

      @lproven good luck finding a carrier that supports something other than Apple or Android

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      @JoelBarr I don't know where in the world you are but where I am it is no problem at all.

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      • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

        Your phone is about to stop being yours.

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        Keep Android Open

        Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

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        (keepandroidopen.org)

        125 days until lockdown

        Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

        Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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        @lproven @keepandroidopen anyone yet filed complaints with regulators like @BNetzA & @EUCommission ?

        - I heard some independent #Android #AppStore from the #EU filed something but I didn't find the details…

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        • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

          @GrapheneOS @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven

          Sure, but I'm not really interested in using Pixel device to begin with which is why Graphene isn't really an option. Expecting security and privacy on Google hardware seems like a bit of a fool's errand.

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          @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Pixels are the most secure Android devices. They're currently the only Android devices providing both reasonable updates and proper support for using another OS. They're the only Android devices with important hardware-based security features needed for reasonable security where those can all be used by another OS. The only serious alternative that's available is an iPhone. Fairphones don't provide reasonable privacy or security with any OS.

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          • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

            @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Pixels are the most secure Android devices. They're currently the only Android devices providing both reasonable updates and proper support for using another OS. They're the only Android devices with important hardware-based security features needed for reasonable security where those can all be used by another OS. The only serious alternative that's available is an iPhone. Fairphones don't provide reasonable privacy or security with any OS.

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            @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Apple and Google both try to protect their users from exploits. /e/ claims protecting users from exploits is primarily useful to criminals and doesn't provide proper standard privacy and security patches or protections.

            If you care about privacy and security then there's a lot more to choosing an alternate OS and a device than avoiding one particular company.

            Most OEMs bundle privileged Google apps/services but weaken privacy beyond that.

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            • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

              Your phone is about to stop being yours.

              Link Preview Image
              Keep Android Open

              Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

              favicon

              (keepandroidopen.org)

              125 days until lockdown

              Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

              Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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              @lproven I'm still looking for definitive answers for my Fairphone 4 running e/OS/.

              This is a mess. On the bright side, there is (or was) a proper open source version, which should gain support as a result of this.

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              • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                @fishidwardrobe Do read the whole web page, eh?

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                @lproven the web page agrees with what i said.

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                • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                  Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                  Link Preview Image
                  Keep Android Open

                  Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

                  favicon

                  (keepandroidopen.org)

                  125 days until lockdown

                  Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                  Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

                  aaranhouse@ohai.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @lproven The EU and Asia REALLY need to offer Google free AFFORDABLE phones and pronto (along with efforts to de-meta, de-X)

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                  • lopta@mastodon.socialL lopta@mastodon.social

                    @lproven It would be nice if (non-Android) Linux phones were an option.

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                    @lopta @lproven they are

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                    • scottytrees@mastodon.socialS scottytrees@mastodon.social

                      @lproven all the android elitists for years saying android was the best, look at them now. always found it super weird to be in google's back pocket...

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                      @scottytrees @lproven "signed, a resentful apple elitist"

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                      • ottercynical@is.nota.liveO ottercynical@is.nota.live

                        @lopta @lproven they are

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                        @ottercynical @lproven Perhaps it depends where you live. Are there certain makes and models to look for?

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                        • G gbsills@social.vivaldi.net

                          @lproven Damn it all! I switching to Apple... er, no wait...

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                          @gbsills @lproven

                          Okay ! You wanted to say:
                          #Switching to #Linux... 🤣

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                          • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                            @lproven the web page agrees with what i said.

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                            @fishidwardrobe @lproven it doesn't seem *that* convoluted, but I'm intrigued by the ramifications of going through the process.

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                            • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                              Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                              Link Preview Image
                              Keep Android Open

                              Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

                              favicon

                              (keepandroidopen.org)

                              125 days until lockdown

                              Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                              Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

                              sonofsuntzu@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @lproven thank you for posting this on at least two different platforms, always interesting to compare and contrast the difference in responses.

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                              • lopta@mastodon.socialL lopta@mastodon.social

                                @ottercynical @lproven Perhaps it depends where you live. Are there certain makes and models to look for?

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                                @lopta @ottercynical It's a little back-asswards, but at present, because most mobile Linux distributions only support a limited range of models, your best bet is to pick the distro you want, then look at its sorted model list. Work out and models whose features and performance you like, then see what they cost 2nd hand.

                                Google Pixels are expensive, even used. Some OnePlus models are fairly reasonable second hand, though.

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                                • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                  @lproven the web page agrees with what i said.

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                                  @fishidwardrobe Yes, it does. That was my point.

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                                  • antonproitzelhaimer@mastodon.socialA antonproitzelhaimer@mastodon.social

                                    @gbsills @lproven

                                    Okay ! You wanted to say:
                                    #Switching to #Linux... 🤣

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                                    @antonproitzelhaimer @gbsills @lproven if I could get my linux phone to pair with my car to give me maps and music.. i'd be there in a heartbeat

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                                      @spycrab @aoeuidhtns Good question!

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                                      • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @lopta @ottercynical It's a little back-asswards, but at present, because most mobile Linux distributions only support a limited range of models, your best bet is to pick the distro you want, then look at its sorted model list. Work out and models whose features and performance you like, then see what they cost 2nd hand.

                                        Google Pixels are expensive, even used. Some OnePlus models are fairly reasonable second hand, though.

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                                        @lproven @ottercynical I don't think OnePlus is a thing here. I've thought about buying a (non-Android) flip phone with hotspot support and tethering a tablet through that. Main Android apps I would miss are Organic Maps and my bus pass.

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                                        • lopta@mastodon.socialL lopta@mastodon.social

                                          @lproven @ottercynical I don't think OnePlus is a thing here. I've thought about buying a (non-Android) flip phone with hotspot support and tethering a tablet through that. Main Android apps I would miss are Organic Maps and my bus pass.

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                                          @lopta @lproven so... android with extra steps

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