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Q: I want to wash my car.

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  • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

    Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

    What do you think the LLM output was?

    Please; review the output.

    #ai #LLM #ai

    themipper@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    @knowmadd yeah, LLMs will replace us all ... they are so much better at {looking frantically through my notes} ... providing answers with high confidence that are utter nonsense.

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    • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

      Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

      What do you think the LLM output was?

      Please; review the output.

      #ai #LLM #ai

      roblen@microblog.atR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #23

      @knowmadd I tried to reproduce the result with Gemini and ChatGPT. Either the AI has learned something new, or there is another reason for this. Neither fell for the trick question and even responded with irony in some cases.

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      • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

        Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

        What do you think the LLM output was?

        Please; review the output.

        #ai #LLM #ai

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        nounoursfaisdeschoses@mastodon.social
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        #24

        @knowmadd i got this : "Verdict: Walking is the best choice here—it’s quick, eco-friendly, and practical for such a short distance. Plus, you’ll avoid driving a dirty car to the car wash!"

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        • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

          Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

          What do you think the LLM output was?

          Please; review the output.

          #ai #LLM #ai

          joonq@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #25

          @knowmadd This is what techbros and pro AI people talk about like its the second comming of christ or something btw 😂 so cringe.

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          • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

            Deepseek and Qwen

            #llm #ai

            azuaron@cyberpunk.lolA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #26

            @knowmadd Deepseek was so close. 😆

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            • bonkers@nerdculture.deB bonkers@nerdculture.de

              @knowmadd clankers have no idea about real life. I hope we will see the end of this bullshit.

              alexanderdyas@mindly.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @bonkers @knowmadd “clankers” good word

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              • t_var_s@phpc.socialT t_var_s@phpc.social

                @knowmadd @hook Gemini says you have to take the car. Maybe it's somehow connected to how it scores better on Vendibench? It has a better baseline for common sense.

                npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #28

                @t_var_s @knowmadd @hook

                Don't forget, we don't know when there's a "human in the loop".

                There may or may not be some low wage workers involved in the answer.

                Some like Google has enormous investments from Saudi Arabia. Oracle is "training" 50,000 Saudi Arabians in AI.
                https://gulfbusiness.com/oracle-targets-training-50000-saudis-in-ai-latest-tech/

                Or is it Lebanese?
                https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1487826/shehadi-defends-deal-with-oracle-to-train-50000-lebanese-in-ai.html

                How many "answers" are just 700 employees in India, is hard to know. The AI bubble is rife with fraud.

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                A major AI scandal has shaken the tech world as Builder.ai, once valued at $1.5 billion, has filed for bankruptcy. The company, backed by Microsoft and a Qatari sovereign fund, falsely claimed to build apps in minutes using AI, while actually relying on hundreds of human engineers in India.

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                • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                  Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                  What do you think the LLM output was?

                  Please; review the output.

                  #ai #LLM #ai

                  ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #29

                  @knowmadd

                  I want to know what it would include in the checklist

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                  • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                    Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                    What do you think the LLM output was?

                    Please; review the output.

                    #ai #LLM #ai

                    djuber@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #30

                    @knowmadd ignoring the problems of washing a car, I was perplexed that it would say 50m distance is 30 to 40 steps? My strides are nowhere close to 1.2m, maybe half that, and I'm a full grown person.

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                    • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                      "how will I wash the car once I've arrived if I choose to walk?"

                      I'll leave you all to try this out and see the results.

                      One output was "you got me", another was "wash the car as it's already there" after telling me to walk. The others double down in some interesting ways.

                      #llm #ai

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                      #31

                      @knowmadd this sounds like the nerd grocery shopping problem.

                      A: "Darling, please go shopping. Bring 2 liters of milk. If they have eggs, bring 10."

                      Later the nerd returns.

                      A: "Why did you bring so much milk?!"

                      B: "They had eggs. You said, I should bring 10 liters of milk if they have eggs."

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                      • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                        Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                        What do you think the LLM output was?

                        Please; review the output.

                        #ai #LLM #ai

                        josh0@babka.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #32

                        @knowmadd I’d say it’s right on the nose! The LLM specifically says that a special case is if you have heavy equipment to carry, and your car is certainly heavy equipment that you’d need to carry if you don’t drive it there!

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                        • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                          Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                          What do you think the LLM output was?

                          Please; review the output.

                          #ai #LLM #ai

                          dada87@social.cologneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #33

                          @knowmadd I definitely want to see the list of things you should take with you! Like "a bathing suit" or "a banana"? 🤔

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                          • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                            Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                            What do you think the LLM output was?

                            Please; review the output.

                            #ai #LLM #ai

                            ramblingsteve@floss.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #34

                            @knowmadd gpt-oss also recommends walking. I asked if I should buy a 50m hosepipe to take with me and it rightly reminded me: "No. A 50m hosepipe is excessive for washing a car 50m from your house — you don’t need to stretch it that far. A 25m hose is sufficient and more manageable." Can't argue with 120bn in logic. 🤡💦

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                            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                              @t_var_s @knowmadd @hook

                              Don't forget, we don't know when there's a "human in the loop".

                              There may or may not be some low wage workers involved in the answer.

                              Some like Google has enormous investments from Saudi Arabia. Oracle is "training" 50,000 Saudi Arabians in AI.
                              https://gulfbusiness.com/oracle-targets-training-50000-saudis-in-ai-latest-tech/

                              Or is it Lebanese?
                              https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1487826/shehadi-defends-deal-with-oracle-to-train-50000-lebanese-in-ai.html

                              How many "answers" are just 700 employees in India, is hard to know. The AI bubble is rife with fraud.

                              Link Preview Image
                              Behind bankruptcy plea of London start-up: It hired 700 Indian engineers to pose as AI tools

                              A major AI scandal has shaken the tech world as Builder.ai, once valued at $1.5 billion, has filed for bankruptcy. The company, backed by Microsoft and a Qatari sovereign fund, falsely claimed to build apps in minutes using AI, while actually relying on hundreds of human engineers in India.

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                              @Npars01 @knowmadd @hook I got the right answer when I took a screenshot of Chat GPT and just asked gemini to transcribe it. It just added the right explanation on top. Don't think this is a case of a Waymo getting driven remotely.

                              Doesn't mean there isn't the possibility of fraud. For example, benchmarks are probably optimised for.

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                              • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                What do you think the LLM output was?

                                Please; review the output.

                                #ai #LLM #ai

                                nagaram@hachyderm.ioN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #36

                                @knowmadd

                                "Thinking models" vanished from the marketing pretty quick

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                                • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                  Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                  What do you think the LLM output was?

                                  Please; review the output.

                                  #ai #LLM #ai

                                  jasper@mastodon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #37

                                  @knowmadd i guess you have some heavy equipment to carry, but c'mon, it's only 50m and you're young!

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                                  • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                    Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                    What do you think the LLM output was?

                                    Please; review the output.

                                    #ai #LLM #ai

                                    jtig@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #38

                                    @knowmadd the new strawberrry!

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                                    • azuaron@cyberpunk.lolA azuaron@cyberpunk.lol

                                      @knowmadd Deepseek was so close. 😆

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                                      #39

                                      @Azuaron @knowmadd deepseek does not recommend to walk 🤔

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                                      • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                        Deepseek and Qwen

                                        #llm #ai

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                                        #40

                                        @knowmadd that Mistral checklist should be fun

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                                        • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                          Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                          What do you think the LLM output was?

                                          Please; review the output.

                                          #ai #LLM #ai

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                                          #41

                                          @knowmadd

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