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Fedora Hummingbird is one of the more interesting things to come out of the container world this year.

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  • larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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    Fedora Hummingbird is one of the more interesting things to come out of the container world this year.

    I rebuilt my mastogreet bot on top of registry.access.redhat.com/hi/python, the new distroless Python image catalog from Project Hummingbird:

    no shell
    no package manager
    signed SBOMs
    chunked OCI layers
    one surprisingly sharp UID footgun

    The image only shrank ~10%, which turns out to be the least interesting part.

    I wrote up the rebuild, the operational differences, and where Fedora Hummingbird Linux and Red Hat Hardened Images fit into the picture.

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    Fedora Hummingbird: Distroless, Container-Native Linux and a Slim mastogreet

    Fedora Hummingbird brings the distroless container model to a full, image-based rolling operating system, and it ships a catalog of hardened language images ...

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    Larvitz Blog (blog.hofstede.it)

    #fedora #hummingbird #redhat #podman #containers

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    • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

      Fedora Hummingbird is one of the more interesting things to come out of the container world this year.

      I rebuilt my mastogreet bot on top of registry.access.redhat.com/hi/python, the new distroless Python image catalog from Project Hummingbird:

      no shell
      no package manager
      signed SBOMs
      chunked OCI layers
      one surprisingly sharp UID footgun

      The image only shrank ~10%, which turns out to be the least interesting part.

      I wrote up the rebuild, the operational differences, and where Fedora Hummingbird Linux and Red Hat Hardened Images fit into the picture.

      Link Preview Image
      Fedora Hummingbird: Distroless, Container-Native Linux and a Slim mastogreet

      Fedora Hummingbird brings the distroless container model to a full, image-based rolling operating system, and it ships a catalog of hardened language images ...

      favicon

      Larvitz Blog (blog.hofstede.it)

      #fedora #hummingbird #redhat #podman #containers

      gary_alderson@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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      gary_alderson@infosec.exchange
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      @Larvitz redhat has a bad rep in general so they can't lead all that well - they are basically all for profit so it helps but also hurts their own efforts, in short, nobody gives a shit, they are out for themselves

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      • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

        Fedora Hummingbird is one of the more interesting things to come out of the container world this year.

        I rebuilt my mastogreet bot on top of registry.access.redhat.com/hi/python, the new distroless Python image catalog from Project Hummingbird:

        no shell
        no package manager
        signed SBOMs
        chunked OCI layers
        one surprisingly sharp UID footgun

        The image only shrank ~10%, which turns out to be the least interesting part.

        I wrote up the rebuild, the operational differences, and where Fedora Hummingbird Linux and Red Hat Hardened Images fit into the picture.

        Link Preview Image
        Fedora Hummingbird: Distroless, Container-Native Linux and a Slim mastogreet

        Fedora Hummingbird brings the distroless container model to a full, image-based rolling operating system, and it ships a catalog of hardened language images ...

        favicon

        Larvitz Blog (blog.hofstede.it)

        #fedora #hummingbird #redhat #podman #containers

        cpy@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Larvitz Link seems broken for me. Connection failed.

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        • cpy@mastodon.socialC cpy@mastodon.social

          @Larvitz Link seems broken for me. Connection failed.

          larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cpy I work on the server right now and broke something .. Should be back ASAP.

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          • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

            Fedora Hummingbird is one of the more interesting things to come out of the container world this year.

            I rebuilt my mastogreet bot on top of registry.access.redhat.com/hi/python, the new distroless Python image catalog from Project Hummingbird:

            no shell
            no package manager
            signed SBOMs
            chunked OCI layers
            one surprisingly sharp UID footgun

            The image only shrank ~10%, which turns out to be the least interesting part.

            I wrote up the rebuild, the operational differences, and where Fedora Hummingbird Linux and Red Hat Hardened Images fit into the picture.

            Link Preview Image
            Fedora Hummingbird: Distroless, Container-Native Linux and a Slim mastogreet

            Fedora Hummingbird brings the distroless container model to a full, image-based rolling operating system, and it ships a catalog of hardened language images ...

            favicon

            Larvitz Blog (blog.hofstede.it)

            #fedora #hummingbird #redhat #podman #containers

            barthalion@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
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            barthalion@social.treehouse.systems
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            @Larvitz Did you use LLM when writing your post?

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            • barthalion@social.treehouse.systemsB barthalion@social.treehouse.systems

              @Larvitz Did you use LLM when writing your post?

              larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
              larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
              larvitz@burningboard.net
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              @barthalion I write my blog posts myself, but use a small local LLM (Ministral 14B from Mistral on my laptop) to enhance the style and grammar when writing in English, which is a foreign language for me. I use AI to give the text an editorial pass before publishing.

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              • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

                @barthalion I write my blog posts myself, but use a small local LLM (Ministral 14B from Mistral on my laptop) to enhance the style and grammar when writing in English, which is a foreign language for me. I use AI to give the text an editorial pass before publishing.

                barthalion@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Larvitz Thanks, was just curious. Some sentences sound very LLM-ish but also didn’t seem slopified enough at the same time. Unfortunately, all models seem to leak that distinct writing style for even simple edits.

                Good read either way, unsure it or changes much over UBI besides faux community sticker. I guess it’s an answer to Chainguard images if to anything.

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                • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

                  Fedora Hummingbird is one of the more interesting things to come out of the container world this year.

                  I rebuilt my mastogreet bot on top of registry.access.redhat.com/hi/python, the new distroless Python image catalog from Project Hummingbird:

                  no shell
                  no package manager
                  signed SBOMs
                  chunked OCI layers
                  one surprisingly sharp UID footgun

                  The image only shrank ~10%, which turns out to be the least interesting part.

                  I wrote up the rebuild, the operational differences, and where Fedora Hummingbird Linux and Red Hat Hardened Images fit into the picture.

                  Link Preview Image
                  Fedora Hummingbird: Distroless, Container-Native Linux and a Slim mastogreet

                  Fedora Hummingbird brings the distroless container model to a full, image-based rolling operating system, and it ships a catalog of hardened language images ...

                  favicon

                  Larvitz Blog (blog.hofstede.it)

                  #fedora #hummingbird #redhat #podman #containers

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                  robertsturla@infosec.exchange
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                  @Larvitz Thanks for writing this up! Glad you found them useful!

                  For most builds, we anticipate users using a multi-stage build using a builder image, followed by a non-builder. Since the builder images contain a shell, you shouldn't need to use the `RUN ["echo", "hello"]` syntax - the regular `RUN echo hello` would work in the build stage.

                  We're working on minimising the images further too, including removing a bunch of tools used for managing certificates (which rely on Bash and are since broken) on the non-builders.

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