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  3. I'm pretty determined to become at least somewhat proficient at #cw this year and have some cw #QSOs on the air.

I'm pretty determined to become at least somewhat proficient at #cw this year and have some cw #QSOs on the air.

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  • bud_t@m.ai6yr.orgB bud_t@m.ai6yr.org

    @admin I am trying to first learn sending using a straight key and my rig in "training" mode. And I am finding that I need to relax!

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    @bud_t @admin I'd really encourage you to get a paddle. You'll send better code with a paddle, and it's a lot easier on the hand and wrist. CWops require that their CW Academy students use a paddle for good reason.

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    • kb6nu@mastodon.radioK kb6nu@mastodon.radio

      @bud_t @admin I'd really encourage you to get a paddle. You'll send better code with a paddle, and it's a lot easier on the hand and wrist. CWops require that their CW Academy students use a paddle for good reason.

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      @kb6nu @admin I read somewhere to start with a straight key before going to a paddle. Do you not think that is a good strategy? I guess the idea is to develop your own sense of timing?

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      • bud_t@m.ai6yr.orgB bud_t@m.ai6yr.org

        @kb6nu @admin I read somewhere to start with a straight key before going to a paddle. Do you not think that is a good strategy? I guess the idea is to develop your own sense of timing?

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        @bud_t

        Up and down straight keys contribute to carpal tunnel syndrome, glass elbow, and other maladies.. unless you know how to stay relaxed.

        This is why I like a cootie. It's a straight key, but it's keyed on a paddle. you make all the dits and all the dahs, and it doesn't matter which side is a dit or a dah.

        I can key with two fingers and not hurt..

        So much so that I designed my own key that I 3D printed. Magnetic tension, really light touch...

        Cootie isn't for everyone, but I agree with Dan - paddle keys (Bug, Cootie, etc) are probably a better bet.

        @kb6nu

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        • bud_t@m.ai6yr.orgB bud_t@m.ai6yr.org

          @kb6nu @admin I read somewhere to start with a straight key before going to a paddle. Do you not think that is a good strategy? I guess the idea is to develop your own sense of timing?

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          @bud_t @admin No, I don't think that's a good strategy. I started out with a straight key many years ago and never really developed a great fist. You really can't really tell how good or bad your fist is, unless you record yourself and play it back. With a paddle and keyer, you can be sure, at least that the dits and dahs are consistent. As I say, the CWops CW Academy requires students to learn with a paddle.

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            @bud_t @admin No, I don't think that's a good strategy. I started out with a straight key many years ago and never really developed a great fist. You really can't really tell how good or bad your fist is, unless you record yourself and play it back. With a paddle and keyer, you can be sure, at least that the dits and dahs are consistent. As I say, the CWops CW Academy requires students to learn with a paddle.

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            @kb6nu

            Odd... I get accused of using a keyer all the time when I let the station I'm working know I'm on a cootie.

            It depends on the op.

            @bud_t

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            • bud_t@m.ai6yr.orgB bud_t@m.ai6yr.org

              @kb6nu @admin I read somewhere to start with a straight key before going to a paddle. Do you not think that is a good strategy? I guess the idea is to develop your own sense of timing?

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              @bud_t @kb6nu @admin imo the answer to this debate is to just pick one and start with it.

              I highly recommend the book "The CW Way of Life". It is straight key focused, but has really good exercises in general for learning Morse or improving technique. Also has a focus on proper ergonomics.

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                @bud_t @kb6nu @admin imo the answer to this debate is to just pick one and start with it.

                I highly recommend the book "The CW Way of Life". It is straight key focused, but has really good exercises in general for learning Morse or improving technique. Also has a focus on proper ergonomics.

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                @tsherrygeo @bud_t @kb6nu @admin For the record, I am a HUGE straight key and SKCC fan. And I am absolutely AGHAST and hate CW Academy, because it produces people who can send very fast code but can't slow down and work anyone else. PADDLES SUCK 😉

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                • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                  @tsherrygeo @bud_t @kb6nu @admin For the record, I am a HUGE straight key and SKCC fan. And I am absolutely AGHAST and hate CW Academy, because it produces people who can send very fast code but can't slow down and work anyone else. PADDLES SUCK 😉

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                  @tsherrygeo @bud_t @kb6nu @admin

                  On the air: SKCC folks: hugely tolerant, help people out, willing to run slow. Easy to run because it's very structured and the same exchange every time, twice.

                  CW Ops folks: absolute a***holes. When I was first learning, one of their folks sent me a postal letter telling me how HORRIBLE my CW was (I had been on the air exactly 1 week) and how I should be ashamed to be a ham, and should turn in my license.

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                    @tsherrygeo @bud_t @kb6nu @admin

                    On the air: SKCC folks: hugely tolerant, help people out, willing to run slow. Easy to run because it's very structured and the same exchange every time, twice.

                    CW Ops folks: absolute a***holes. When I was first learning, one of their folks sent me a postal letter telling me how HORRIBLE my CW was (I had been on the air exactly 1 week) and how I should be ashamed to be a ham, and should turn in my license.

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                    @ai6yr @tsherrygeo @kb6nu @admin 😮 really? That is crazy

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                    • bud_t@m.ai6yr.orgB bud_t@m.ai6yr.org

                      @ai6yr @tsherrygeo @kb6nu @admin 😮 really? That is crazy

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                      @bud_t

                      I can honestly state that I've encountered a lot of the same.

                      SKCC people are hugely more tolerant than CWcOps folks are.

                      @ai6yr @tsherrygeo @kb6nu

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