Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution.
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@david_bardos
i just went through your summary, thanks
i made similar experience. was happily running ubports on a nexus for several years, the best phone i had until i lost it.
then run pmos/sxmo on a #op6 for quite a while daily, praying when doing an update and spending months writing your own apps is a fulltime job, i still love it, but dont beleive anymore that it will make it to a phone state. /e/os is a joke, honestly. sailfishOS, for my tast too colorfull and too far off a linux system@pocketvj Thanks for sharing!
I hope more and more people will degoogle over time. Perhaps, with more people interested, new projects will flourish or the existing ones will receive a significant boost!
Creating your own apps is surely hard work, but it sounds awesome! -
Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
@david_bardos great read, thanks for sharing! Have fun with trying out postmarketOS
Been daily-driving it on FP5 for half a year and am really looking forward to call support (once it's merge-able).
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Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
@david_bardos Neat, i degoogled a while back.
There definetly are working alternativesPersonally the only inconviniences ive noticed are that google-depended taxi apps dont work anymore, lol.
But thats what phoning is for anyway.
As for delivery things like Wolt, they actually offer purely web based interface, which works just aswell.
Anyhow, best decision of my life.
Banking app works too, normal actual bank tho,
those "online banks" like revolut do NOT play nice at all. -
@david_bardos Neat, i degoogled a while back.
There definetly are working alternativesPersonally the only inconviniences ive noticed are that google-depended taxi apps dont work anymore, lol.
But thats what phoning is for anyway.
As for delivery things like Wolt, they actually offer purely web based interface, which works just aswell.
Anyhow, best decision of my life.
Banking app works too, normal actual bank tho,
those "online banks" like revolut do NOT play nice at all.@yama It's a succes story then.
Inspiring! 
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Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
@david_bardos thank you, this is just what I'm looking for! Great website design too.
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@ancientsounds Thanks, that's great! I updated the post. It will be refreshed on my site as soon as pipeline runner will be unclogged.
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Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
@david_bardos I agree with most limitations, but the fingerprint sensor actually works perfectly fine on #UbuntuTouch 24.04 on my #Fairphone5, and the new Qt6-based version of Morph is a significant improvement. But as all the OSes in your list (except postmarketOS), it is dependent on the Android drivers and kernel (via Halium), which at this point is quite outdated. I really enjoy Ubuntu Touch (in fact, I am writing this on UT in the uMastonauts App), but as a daily driver, GrapheneOS is probably a better choice.
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@david_bardos I agree with most limitations, but the fingerprint sensor actually works perfectly fine on #UbuntuTouch 24.04 on my #Fairphone5, and the new Qt6-based version of Morph is a significant improvement. But as all the OSes in your list (except postmarketOS), it is dependent on the Android drivers and kernel (via Halium), which at this point is quite outdated. I really enjoy Ubuntu Touch (in fact, I am writing this on UT in the uMastonauts App), but as a daily driver, GrapheneOS is probably a better choice.
@GeorgWeissenbacher Thanks, I updated the article with these info.
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Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
@david_bardos GrapheneOS is niot based on lineageOS
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@david_bardos GrapheneOS is niot based on lineageOS
@Kurt Thanks for your comment.
Perhaps you're referring to where I wrote, “Most de-Googled variants are forked from LineageOS.” I deliberately wrote “most,” not “all.” -
@Kurt Thanks for your comment.
Perhaps you're referring to where I wrote, “Most de-Googled variants are forked from LineageOS.” I deliberately wrote “most,” not “all.”@david_bardos if i read "most" followed by "example", i think the example refers to most. But I'm not a native speaker
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Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
@david_bardos Hello Dávid, thank you very much for sharing your trip to #ungafam #ungoogle
Your blog makes it very clear.
I 100% agree with you when you say we don't escape google by using their stuff. So 1° for me, no google pixel and no android at all
2° LINUX is very reliable.
3° if I didn't have 2 ooooold Samsung Galaxy phones (one A6 and one a10), I would choose the fairphone, for the same good reasons you gave.
4° I will try hard anything I can do with these phones, before deciding to 1/2 -
@david_bardos Hello Dávid, thank you very much for sharing your trip to #ungafam #ungoogle
Your blog makes it very clear.
I 100% agree with you when you say we don't escape google by using their stuff. So 1° for me, no google pixel and no android at all
2° LINUX is very reliable.
3° if I didn't have 2 ooooold Samsung Galaxy phones (one A6 and one a10), I would choose the fairphone, for the same good reasons you gave.
4° I will try hard anything I can do with these phones, before deciding to 1/2@david_bardos ... buy a fairphone.
Thanks again, very helpful
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@david_bardos if i read "most" followed by "example", i think the example refers to most. But I'm not a native speaker
@Kurt @david_bardos I also read it as examples of LineageOS forks.
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@Kurt @david_bardos I also read it as examples of LineageOS forks.
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Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
@david_bardos Interesting article, and even more interesting website design!
One thing to note is that most people do not (and will not, ever) install an OS; they simply buy a device and Windows, macOS, Android, iOS come preinstalled. You could say they chose their OS by choosing the device.
In the same fashion, there are mobile Linux OSes, e.g. #PureOS and #FuriOS that just come preinstalled for users on devices: #Librem5, #LibertyPhone, #FLX1S+
I think it's this category of OSes that has the higher promise of adoption by normal non-technical folks.
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Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
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@ancientsounds @david_bardos wow that takes a decent picture!
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Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
@david_bardos I think there is a formatting error in the section about postmarketOS: The text after "The plus side:" and after "Known issues:" should probably have been formatted as lists.
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Since I’ve had a degoogled phone, I’ve been happy to share my experiences with those who are also looking for a solution. I’ve summarized my experience in this post.
You’ll find out what options I considered and tried, as well as what inconveniences are worth keeping in mind. I also provide an example of how to collect what’s important for you when choosing a device for degoogling.
https://blog.gridranger.dev/mobile-oses-featuring-fairphone-5/#degoogle #blog #post #indieweb #android #mobileos #ubuntutouch #sailfishos #iodéOS #eos #postmarketos #fairphone
@david_bardos
A great read and thanks for testing out the alternatives to Google/Apple(/Windows?) on mobile devices, I used to run all manner of "ROMs" like 10+ years ago, sadly the same deal breakers persist: camera, radio and incomplete alternative package bases.
Also being rather limited in supported devices isn't ideal.
What has happened for desktop computers regarding open source alternatives has not happened effectively for mobile devices unfortunately and this is a great shame.
