The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.
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The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.
Vote in November.
@randahl Americans Abroad VOTE !!
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@tarheel @benroyce@mastodon.social @randahl not sure type of education, but imagine one where critical thinking was possible. Where voting for a charlatan criminal narcissist was less appealing. One where undermining one's own self interests was acceptable as long as those you hated were punished - this concept seemed absurd. One that learned from history
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not everyone i dislike is hitler
some i dislike are mere weak loser trolls. who's only apparent desire in life is to lick hitler's boots. people like you
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Why spreading nonsense messages making naive people believe WW II had to do with freedom of a free world?
because it's not nonsense? you are aware what fascism is, right, tenured history professor?
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the votes are controlled by the states, not the feds. red states may mess around but they are already red states
stop spreading defeatist lies that suppresses the turnout
the real effect of your cynicism is mindless negativity suppressing voter turnout, and *that* is what gets MAGA elected, rather than any tampering
and people don't revolt until they are hungry. that may be coming, but until then, we can stop it by voting
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@randahl I think that take is quite simplifying. The free world in the sense of US politics certainly didn't beat Hitler, it wasn't about freedom from my point of view. The US helped one evil to win over another. The consequences of these actions can be seen in the present. But focusing purely on US politics it can be still helpful to look into the point of view that got to this point. What where the motivations of previous administrations for war and how did it led there.
i'll further simplify:
randahl's message is to fucking vote
to choose better
if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good
the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse
mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time
and doing nothing else
better. or worse
we must make the choice
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now this is quality trolling
you redirected the topic from your troll image, you ignored the content of it as it is (which is stupid). and you asserted the real topic is interpersonal nonsense between you and i alone
that's also stupid, but more importantly it's *entertaining*
which is the only value bottom feeders like yourself bring
good job
i mean, no one's falling for it but at least it's a good laugh. thank you
now get back to licking hitler's boots, troll
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i'll further simplify:
randahl's message is to fucking vote
to choose better
if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good
the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse
mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time
and doing nothing else
better. or worse
we must make the choice
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So you are thinking rude behaviour could replace serious thinking and arguing?
What's the place you are stemming from, brute?
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i'll further simplify:
randahl's message is to fucking vote
to choose better
if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good
the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse
mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time
and doing nothing else
better. or worse
we must make the choice
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wwii was about freedom
not in the sense that the west was beautiful perfect utopia, but in the sense that it was defeating outright fascism
the garden variety cynical midwit thinks pointing out the west sucks in many ways, then and now, somehow removes that point. it doesn't. it just signifies they'e an unserious edgelord
now make sure to complain about rudeness
as if you don't deserve it
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wwii was about freedom
not in the sense that the west was beautiful perfect utopia, but in the sense that it was defeating outright fascism
the garden variety cynical midwit thinks pointing out the west sucks in many ways, then and now, somehow removes that point. it doesn't. it just signifies they'e an unserious edgelord
now make sure to complain about rudeness
as if you don't deserve it
I don't blame you for believing in those facts you spread here. Many of us do and it makes those belonging to the good ones, which always is desirable.
So - please, tell me what you are thinking of the US standing by calmly as Hitler started to first annihilate Poland, then France partially whilst pounding UK cities?
See the problem?
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if you're saying to vote, i have no problem with you. i embrace you
i simply ask you to not voice rationalizations that convince people not to vote
i'm not asking for airhead optimism. but i am asking for the abandonment of mindless cynicism
"Voting won't change the results"
stop saying shit like this. it's a lie
it leads to people not voting. and *that* is what gets us more of the same or worse more than any other factor
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if you're saying to vote, i have no problem with you. i embrace you
i simply ask you to not voice rationalizations that convince people not to vote
i'm not asking for airhead optimism. but i am asking for the abandonment of mindless cynicism
"Voting won't change the results"
stop saying shit like this. it's a lie
it leads to people not voting. and *that* is what gets us more of the same or worse more than any other factor
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I don't blame you for believing in those facts you spread here. Many of us do and it makes those belonging to the good ones, which always is desirable.
So - please, tell me what you are thinking of the US standing by calmly as Hitler started to first annihilate Poland, then France partially whilst pounding UK cities?
See the problem?
so you're using the fact that the usa delayed entry into wwii as a basis for your "everything the same waah waah" hilariously mindless shit?
listen to me galaxy brain:
the usa fucking sucks. then and now
but what was the west fighting? what did that entity represent?
do you understand the answer to that question and you think you're clever? or you're just so flabby brained you can't or won't tell the difference?
i'm sorry i called you a midwit, you're really a moron
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i'll further simplify:
randahl's message is to fucking vote
to choose better
if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good
the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse
mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time
and doing nothing else
better. or worse
we must make the choice
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The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.
Vote in November.
@randahl wow!!!
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@tarheel @benroyce@mastodon.social @randahl not sure type of education, but imagine one where critical thinking was possible. Where voting for a charlatan criminal narcissist was less appealing. One where undermining one's own self interests was acceptable as long as those you hated were punished - this concept seemed absurd. One that learned from history
1970's Nixon/GOP aligned with the Fundamental Christians & began disassembling what had been the best affordable public school system in the world. (The push for god in school) The point is we had excellent education, they understood that is where the real damage needs to be done. We were going through so many changes no one really noticed. GOP was reacting to FDR's policies. We were also trying to expand what we had to all folks, never made it. Still a heavy lift.
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@randahl I think that take is quite simplifying. The free world in the sense of US politics certainly didn't beat Hitler, it wasn't about freedom from my point of view. The US helped one evil to win over another. The consequences of these actions can be seen in the present. But focusing purely on US politics it can be still helpful to look into the point of view that got to this point. What where the motivations of previous administrations for war and how did it led there.
@thaodan Would you care to elaborate, because I am not sure I agree with World War 2 simply being one evil defeating another.
Hitler had an ambition of enslaving peoples that were different from his own people. That is evil.
The allies had an ambition of freeing the countries Hitler occupied and replacing the violent, totalitarian regime with democracies and peace. That is good.
