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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

    Vote in November.

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    #14

    @randahl #resist #vote We can imprison the corrupt criminals running things if all of us #dropsinthebucketaddup

    Spread hope all you other commenters, not despair. He who is not gathering is scattering.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

      Vote in November.

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      #15

      @randahl Americans Abroad VOTE !!

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      • tarheel@mstdn.ioT tarheel@mstdn.io

        @benroyce

        @va3ekr @randahl

        Although. I should ask: what kind of education were you envisioning?

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        #16

        @tarheel @benroyce@mastodon.social @randahl not sure type of education, but imagine one where critical thinking was possible. Where voting for a charlatan criminal narcissist was less appealing. One where undermining one's own self interests was acceptable as long as those you hated were punished - this concept seemed absurd. One that learned from history

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @PhoenixWright @randahl

          not everyone i dislike is hitler

          some i dislike are mere weak loser trolls. who's only apparent desire in life is to lick hitler's boots. people like you

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          • finche@nrw.socialF finche@nrw.social

            @randahl

            Why spreading nonsense messages making naive people believe WW II had to do with freedom of a free world?

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            #18

            @finche @randahl

            because it's not nonsense? you are aware what fascism is, right, tenured history professor?

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              #19

              @Arapalla @randahl

              the votes are controlled by the states, not the feds. red states may mess around but they are already red states

              stop spreading defeatist lies that suppresses the turnout

              the real effect of your cynicism is mindless negativity suppressing voter turnout, and *that* is what gets MAGA elected, rather than any tampering

              and people don't revolt until they are hungry. that may be coming, but until then, we can stop it by voting

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              • thaodan@mastodon.socialT thaodan@mastodon.social

                @randahl I think that take is quite simplifying. The free world in the sense of US politics certainly didn't beat Hitler, it wasn't about freedom from my point of view. The US helped one evil to win over another. The consequences of these actions can be seen in the present. But focusing purely on US politics it can be still helpful to look into the point of view that got to this point. What where the motivations of previous administrations for war and how did it led there.

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                #20

                @thaodan @randahl

                i'll further simplify:

                randahl's message is to fucking vote

                to choose better

                if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good

                the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse

                mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time

                and doing nothing else

                better. or worse

                we must make the choice

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                  @PhoenixWright @randahl

                  now this is quality trolling

                  you redirected the topic from your troll image, you ignored the content of it as it is (which is stupid). and you asserted the real topic is interpersonal nonsense between you and i alone

                  that's also stupid, but more importantly it's *entertaining*

                  which is the only value bottom feeders like yourself bring

                  good job 👏👏👏

                  i mean, no one's falling for it but at least it's a good laugh. thank you

                  now get back to licking hitler's boots, troll

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @thaodan @randahl

                    i'll further simplify:

                    randahl's message is to fucking vote

                    to choose better

                    if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good

                    the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse

                    mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time

                    and doing nothing else

                    better. or worse

                    we must make the choice

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                    #22

                    @benroyce @thaodan @randahl I wish the conversation could go like:
                    "has the world, your life in it, gotten better or worse over the last N years?"
                    "OK, here's what the voting and election record looks like over that time. Does this follow with how you voted, or would have?"

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @finche @randahl

                      because it's not nonsense? you are aware what fascism is, right, tenured history professor?

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                      #23

                      @benroyce @randahl

                      So you are thinking rude behaviour could replace serious thinking and arguing?

                      What's the place you are stemming from, brute?

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @thaodan @randahl

                        i'll further simplify:

                        randahl's message is to fucking vote

                        to choose better

                        if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good

                        the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse

                        mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time

                        and doing nothing else

                        better. or worse

                        we must make the choice

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                        #24

                        @benroyce @thaodan @randahl perfect!

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                        • finche@nrw.socialF finche@nrw.social

                          @benroyce @randahl

                          So you are thinking rude behaviour could replace serious thinking and arguing?

                          What's the place you are stemming from, brute?

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                          @finche @randahl

                          wwii was about freedom

                          not in the sense that the west was beautiful perfect utopia, but in the sense that it was defeating outright fascism

                          the garden variety cynical midwit thinks pointing out the west sucks in many ways, then and now, somehow removes that point. it doesn't. it just signifies they'e an unserious edgelord

                          now make sure to complain about rudeness

                          as if you don't deserve it

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @finche @randahl

                            wwii was about freedom

                            not in the sense that the west was beautiful perfect utopia, but in the sense that it was defeating outright fascism

                            the garden variety cynical midwit thinks pointing out the west sucks in many ways, then and now, somehow removes that point. it doesn't. it just signifies they'e an unserious edgelord

                            now make sure to complain about rudeness

                            as if you don't deserve it

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                            @benroyce @randahl

                            I don't blame you for believing in those facts you spread here. Many of us do and it makes those belonging to the good ones, which always is desirable.

                            So - please, tell me what you are thinking of the US standing by calmly as Hitler started to first annihilate Poland, then France partially whilst pounding UK cities?

                            See the problem?

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                              @mrose @randahl

                              if you're saying to vote, i have no problem with you. i embrace you

                              i simply ask you to not voice rationalizations that convince people not to vote

                              i'm not asking for airhead optimism. but i am asking for the abandonment of mindless cynicism

                              "Voting won't change the results"

                              stop saying shit like this. it's a lie

                              it leads to people not voting. and *that* is what gets us more of the same or worse more than any other factor

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @mrose @randahl

                                if you're saying to vote, i have no problem with you. i embrace you

                                i simply ask you to not voice rationalizations that convince people not to vote

                                i'm not asking for airhead optimism. but i am asking for the abandonment of mindless cynicism

                                "Voting won't change the results"

                                stop saying shit like this. it's a lie

                                it leads to people not voting. and *that* is what gets us more of the same or worse more than any other factor

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                                @benroyce @mrose @randahl If voting didn't change anything then they wouldn't bother gerrymandering.

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                                • finche@nrw.socialF finche@nrw.social

                                  @benroyce @randahl

                                  I don't blame you for believing in those facts you spread here. Many of us do and it makes those belonging to the good ones, which always is desirable.

                                  So - please, tell me what you are thinking of the US standing by calmly as Hitler started to first annihilate Poland, then France partially whilst pounding UK cities?

                                  See the problem?

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                                  @finche @randahl

                                  so you're using the fact that the usa delayed entry into wwii as a basis for your "everything the same waah waah" hilariously mindless shit?

                                  listen to me galaxy brain:

                                  the usa fucking sucks. then and now

                                  but what was the west fighting? what did that entity represent?

                                  do you understand the answer to that question and you think you're clever? or you're just so flabby brained you can't or won't tell the difference?

                                  i'm sorry i called you a midwit, you're really a moron

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @thaodan @randahl

                                    i'll further simplify:

                                    randahl's message is to fucking vote

                                    to choose better

                                    if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good

                                    the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse

                                    mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time

                                    and doing nothing else

                                    better. or worse

                                    we must make the choice

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                                    #30

                                    @benroyce @randahl Fully agree. My comment was mostly trying to point out that up to a point things where not like this only yesterday. Look and see what has to change not just now because things look especially grim.
                                    Meaningful long term changes.

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

                                      Vote in November.

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                                      #31

                                      @randahl wow!!!

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                                      • thaodan@mastodon.socialT thaodan@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @randahl Fully agree. My comment was mostly trying to point out that up to a point things where not like this only yesterday. Look and see what has to change not just now because things look especially grim.
                                        Meaningful long term changes.

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                                        @thaodan @randahl

                                        and likewise, i wasn't disagreeing with you, i was merely riffing on your comment, using your comment as a starting point for a rumination

                                        just conversation no antagonism

                                        🙌

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                                        • va3ekr@mastodon.radioV va3ekr@mastodon.radio

                                          @tarheel @benroyce@mastodon.social @randahl not sure type of education, but imagine one where critical thinking was possible. Where voting for a charlatan criminal narcissist was less appealing. One where undermining one's own self interests was acceptable as long as those you hated were punished - this concept seemed absurd. One that learned from history

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                                          @va3ekr @tarheel @randahl

                                          1970's Nixon/GOP aligned with the Fundamental Christians & began disassembling what had been the best affordable public school system in the world. (The push for god in school) The point is we had excellent education, they understood that is where the real damage needs to be done. We were going through so many changes no one really noticed. GOP was reacting to FDR's policies. We were also trying to expand what we had to all folks, never made it. Still a heavy lift.

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