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The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @mrose @randahl

    the votes are controlled by the states

    red states may cheat but they're already red

    what you're doing is called premature capitulation. it's a form of cowardice and weakness. merely because the malicious intend to do something, you act like they are already achieved it. weak

    and the worst part is your false belief convinces people not to vote, so the real steal is this: suppressing the vote with lying cynicism. your attitude as the real cause of MAGA potentially winning

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

      Vote in November.

      thaodan@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @randahl I think that take is quite simplifying. The free world in the sense of US politics certainly didn't beat Hitler, it wasn't about freedom from my point of view. The US helped one evil to win over another. The consequences of these actions can be seen in the present. But focusing purely on US politics it can be still helpful to look into the point of view that got to this point. What where the motivations of previous administrations for war and how did it led there.

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      • thaodan@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @micchiato @mrose @randahl
        Never forgot whom the Nazis copied when implementing concentration camp's and even later parts of the shoa.
        I'm saying later parts here as the concentration camps was first to suppress resistance and condition society.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

          Vote in November.

          finche@nrw.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
          finche@nrw.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @randahl

          Why spreading nonsense messages making naive people believe WW II had to do with freedom of a free world?

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

            Vote in November.

            jdgeoshack@social.vivaldi.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @randahl #resist #vote We can imprison the corrupt criminals running things if all of us #dropsinthebucketaddup

            Spread hope all you other commenters, not despair. He who is not gathering is scattering.

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

              Vote in November.

              swggrkllr3rd@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @randahl Americans Abroad VOTE !!

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              • tarheel@mstdn.ioT tarheel@mstdn.io

                @benroyce

                @va3ekr @randahl

                Although. I should ask: what kind of education were you envisioning?

                va3ekr@mastodon.radioV This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @tarheel @benroyce@mastodon.social @randahl not sure type of education, but imagine one where critical thinking was possible. Where voting for a charlatan criminal narcissist was less appealing. One where undermining one's own self interests was acceptable as long as those you hated were punished - this concept seemed absurd. One that learned from history

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @PhoenixWright @randahl

                  not everyone i dislike is hitler

                  some i dislike are mere weak loser trolls. who's only apparent desire in life is to lick hitler's boots. people like you

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                  • finche@nrw.socialF finche@nrw.social

                    @randahl

                    Why spreading nonsense messages making naive people believe WW II had to do with freedom of a free world?

                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #18

                    @finche @randahl

                    because it's not nonsense? you are aware what fascism is, right, tenured history professor?

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @Arapalla @randahl

                      the votes are controlled by the states, not the feds. red states may mess around but they are already red states

                      stop spreading defeatist lies that suppresses the turnout

                      the real effect of your cynicism is mindless negativity suppressing voter turnout, and *that* is what gets MAGA elected, rather than any tampering

                      and people don't revolt until they are hungry. that may be coming, but until then, we can stop it by voting

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                      • thaodan@mastodon.socialT thaodan@mastodon.social

                        @randahl I think that take is quite simplifying. The free world in the sense of US politics certainly didn't beat Hitler, it wasn't about freedom from my point of view. The US helped one evil to win over another. The consequences of these actions can be seen in the present. But focusing purely on US politics it can be still helpful to look into the point of view that got to this point. What where the motivations of previous administrations for war and how did it led there.

                        benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                        benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @thaodan @randahl

                        i'll further simplify:

                        randahl's message is to fucking vote

                        to choose better

                        if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good

                        the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse

                        mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time

                        and doing nothing else

                        better. or worse

                        we must make the choice

                        paneerakbari@mas.toP wingedsnake@mastodon.berlinW thaodan@mastodon.socialT 3 Replies Last reply
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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #21

                          @PhoenixWright @randahl

                          now this is quality trolling

                          you redirected the topic from your troll image, you ignored the content of it as it is (which is stupid). and you asserted the real topic is interpersonal nonsense between you and i alone

                          that's also stupid, but more importantly it's *entertaining*

                          which is the only value bottom feeders like yourself bring

                          good job 👏👏👏

                          i mean, no one's falling for it but at least it's a good laugh. thank you

                          now get back to licking hitler's boots, troll

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @thaodan @randahl

                            i'll further simplify:

                            randahl's message is to fucking vote

                            to choose better

                            if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good

                            the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse

                            mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time

                            and doing nothing else

                            better. or worse

                            we must make the choice

                            paneerakbari@mas.toP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #22

                            @benroyce @thaodan @randahl I wish the conversation could go like:
                            "has the world, your life in it, gotten better or worse over the last N years?"
                            "OK, here's what the voting and election record looks like over that time. Does this follow with how you voted, or would have?"

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @finche @randahl

                              because it's not nonsense? you are aware what fascism is, right, tenured history professor?

                              finche@nrw.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #23

                              @benroyce @randahl

                              So you are thinking rude behaviour could replace serious thinking and arguing?

                              What's the place you are stemming from, brute?

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @thaodan @randahl

                                i'll further simplify:

                                randahl's message is to fucking vote

                                to choose better

                                if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good

                                the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse

                                mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time

                                and doing nothing else

                                better. or worse

                                we must make the choice

                                wingedsnake@mastodon.berlinW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #24

                                @benroyce @thaodan @randahl perfect!

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                                • finche@nrw.socialF finche@nrw.social

                                  @benroyce @randahl

                                  So you are thinking rude behaviour could replace serious thinking and arguing?

                                  What's the place you are stemming from, brute?

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                                  @finche @randahl

                                  wwii was about freedom

                                  not in the sense that the west was beautiful perfect utopia, but in the sense that it was defeating outright fascism

                                  the garden variety cynical midwit thinks pointing out the west sucks in many ways, then and now, somehow removes that point. it doesn't. it just signifies they'e an unserious edgelord

                                  now make sure to complain about rudeness

                                  as if you don't deserve it

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @finche @randahl

                                    wwii was about freedom

                                    not in the sense that the west was beautiful perfect utopia, but in the sense that it was defeating outright fascism

                                    the garden variety cynical midwit thinks pointing out the west sucks in many ways, then and now, somehow removes that point. it doesn't. it just signifies they'e an unserious edgelord

                                    now make sure to complain about rudeness

                                    as if you don't deserve it

                                    finche@nrw.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @benroyce @randahl

                                    I don't blame you for believing in those facts you spread here. Many of us do and it makes those belonging to the good ones, which always is desirable.

                                    So - please, tell me what you are thinking of the US standing by calmly as Hitler started to first annihilate Poland, then France partially whilst pounding UK cities?

                                    See the problem?

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                                      #27

                                      @mrose @randahl

                                      if you're saying to vote, i have no problem with you. i embrace you

                                      i simply ask you to not voice rationalizations that convince people not to vote

                                      i'm not asking for airhead optimism. but i am asking for the abandonment of mindless cynicism

                                      "Voting won't change the results"

                                      stop saying shit like this. it's a lie

                                      it leads to people not voting. and *that* is what gets us more of the same or worse more than any other factor

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @mrose @randahl

                                        if you're saying to vote, i have no problem with you. i embrace you

                                        i simply ask you to not voice rationalizations that convince people not to vote

                                        i'm not asking for airhead optimism. but i am asking for the abandonment of mindless cynicism

                                        "Voting won't change the results"

                                        stop saying shit like this. it's a lie

                                        it leads to people not voting. and *that* is what gets us more of the same or worse more than any other factor

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                                        @benroyce @mrose @randahl If voting didn't change anything then they wouldn't bother gerrymandering.

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                                        • finche@nrw.socialF finche@nrw.social

                                          @benroyce @randahl

                                          I don't blame you for believing in those facts you spread here. Many of us do and it makes those belonging to the good ones, which always is desirable.

                                          So - please, tell me what you are thinking of the US standing by calmly as Hitler started to first annihilate Poland, then France partially whilst pounding UK cities?

                                          See the problem?

                                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #29

                                          @finche @randahl

                                          so you're using the fact that the usa delayed entry into wwii as a basis for your "everything the same waah waah" hilariously mindless shit?

                                          listen to me galaxy brain:

                                          the usa fucking sucks. then and now

                                          but what was the west fighting? what did that entity represent?

                                          do you understand the answer to that question and you think you're clever? or you're just so flabby brained you can't or won't tell the difference?

                                          i'm sorry i called you a midwit, you're really a moron

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