Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.
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@randahl do we have recent numbers on US car imports, and does that include European manufacturers with factories in USA?
My impression there are very few US cars on EU roads.
There's the types that feel driving a Dodge Ram or F150 is Ok, but other than that?(I am very much in favor of some tit-for-tat, but maybe cars isn't the right example)
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@tharkonen @randahl aren't those assembled in NL or built in Berlin?
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Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.
I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.
If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.
@randahl just stop supplying the USA EUV lithography parts and their high end chip industry is kaboom
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@tharkonen @randahl aren't those assembled in NL or built in Berlin?
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@randahl the EU should put tarrifs on it services, like netflix, AWS, google, disney, Microsoft, META, X etc. And it should apply to all companies that has HQ or is incorporated in the US. These money could be used to make European alternatives.
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Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.
I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.
If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.
@randahl the market share of usa‑made cars in the eu is 4.4% and declining
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@martinvermeer @Inidox @ij @randahl ... And they'll need to abolish the death penalty. And student loans. And medical debt.
@cstross @martinvermeer @Inidox @ij @randahl ... and join the Euro and mandate burgundy coloured EU passports without Trump's face on them.
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Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.
I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.
If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.
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@cstross @martinvermeer @Inidox @ij @randahl ... and join the Euro and mandate burgundy coloured EU passports without Trump's face on them.
@marjolica @martinvermeer @Inidox @ij @randahl Some EU nations issue blue passports. The passport cover design is entirely up to the issuing nation. (The "we can have blue passports again after Brexit!!!" stuff was bullshit from start to finish.)
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Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.
I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.
If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.
@randahl
Sales of US cars in Canada have already dropped to record lows, and we're bringing in Chinese EVs for the first time, but none of this seems to be making an impact on the US executive branch. I'm not sure there's much anyone can do, short of getting on Fox News, that can influence their thinking. -
@DLink Maybe this originates from the "together we are stromger" saying? Dunno... won't happen anyway...
But to spin this even further in regards of shared interests: What about California joining the EU, too?
That would also be nice because then the Tech Bros needs to adhere to the GDPR (well, they need anyway, but...) and other EU regulations...
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Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.
I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.
If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.
@randahl It's just a ploy to get out of NATO, (motive not understood) other than a delusional affinity for fellow robber-baron types in Russia.
He's burning bridges with EU and US for a long shot to become, what, an even bigger-time robber-baron?
We can guess how this ends.
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@DLink Maybe this originates from the "together we are stromger" saying? Dunno... won't happen anyway...
But to spin this even further in regards of shared interests: What about California joining the EU, too?
That would also be nice because then the Tech Bros needs to adhere to the GDPR (well, they need anyway, but...) and other EU regulations... -
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@etchedpixels @randahl I am not only thinking about govement, I am thinking about public and private companies and private consumers.
If your Netflix, disney+ etc subscription was added tarrif by 25 % 1 some consumers will cancel their subscription 2. The eu would have money to but into the european IT sector for development.
And yeah any american company should be excluded, to government contracts -
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Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.
I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.
If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.
@randahl Canada's economy is too intertwined--especially for the auto sector to mess with this without any contingency plans (unlike Tr*mp, who doesn't know what contingency means).
Growing up and until I moved away, I would have been able to tell you who the auto union leader's name was, he was that important to the Canadian economy.
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@Inidox Ha! We could make it a requirement to join that Big Tech will be transferred into Public Domain and 90% of their revenue will be fed into an Open Source Fund to pay all those programmers and engineers in the EU!
How about that?
