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Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.

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  • C crisper@techhub.social

    @randahl the EU should put tarrifs on it services, like netflix, AWS, google, disney, Microsoft, META, X etc. And it should apply to all companies that has HQ or is incorporated in the US. These money could be used to make European alternatives.

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    @Crisper @randahl easier to make it clearly an espionage offence to access European government data and pass it to agents of a foreign power. That plus the US laws on warrants against data abroad would make every major US company basically unable to service anything EU government related

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    • inidox@mastodon.socialI inidox@mastodon.social

      @ij @randahl Let’s invite Canada into the EU, and Mexico too, and rename it to the Atlantic Union. If the USA makes democratic improvements and fight corruption, they can then later apply for a membership.

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      @Inidox @ij @randahl I personally don't know why so many Canadians want to join the EU.

      Sure, we have shared interests, but why not just make agreements based on those interests. I don't see what membership does other than make that relationship and our own sovereignty more complicated.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.

        I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.

        If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.

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        @randahl the market share of usa‑made cars in the eu is 4.4% and declining

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          @martinvermeer @Inidox @ij @randahl ... And they'll need to abolish the death penalty. And student loans. And medical debt.

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          @cstross @martinvermeer @Inidox @ij @randahl ... and join the Euro and mandate burgundy coloured EU passports without Trump's face on them.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.

            I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.

            If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.

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            @randahl @roknrol

            You (weirdly) seem to assume that the orange pustule is rational.

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            • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

              @cstross @martinvermeer @Inidox @ij @randahl ... and join the Euro and mandate burgundy coloured EU passports without Trump's face on them.

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              @marjolica @martinvermeer @Inidox @ij @randahl Some EU nations issue blue passports. The passport cover design is entirely up to the issuing nation. (The "we can have blue passports again after Brexit!!!" stuff was bullshit from start to finish.)

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.

                I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.

                If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.

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                @randahl
                Sales of US cars in Canada have already dropped to record lows, and we're bringing in Chinese EVs for the first time, but none of this seems to be making an impact on the US executive branch. I'm not sure there's much anyone can do, short of getting on Fox News, that can influence their thinking.

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                • dlink@posthat.caD dlink@posthat.ca

                  @Inidox @ij @randahl I personally don't know why so many Canadians want to join the EU.

                  Sure, we have shared interests, but why not just make agreements based on those interests. I don't see what membership does other than make that relationship and our own sovereignty more complicated.

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                  @DLink Maybe this originates from the "together we are stromger" saying? Dunno... won't happen anyway...

                  But to spin this even further in regards of shared interests: What about California joining the EU, too?
                  That would also be nice because then the Tech Bros needs to adhere to the GDPR (well, they need anyway, but...) and other EU regulations... 🙂

                  @Inidox @randahl

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.

                    I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.

                    If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.

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                    @randahl It's just a ploy to get out of NATO, (motive not understood) other than a delusional affinity for fellow robber-baron types in Russia.

                    He's burning bridges with EU and US for a long shot to become, what, an even bigger-time robber-baron?

                    We can guess how this ends.

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                    • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                      @DLink Maybe this originates from the "together we are stromger" saying? Dunno... won't happen anyway...

                      But to spin this even further in regards of shared interests: What about California joining the EU, too?
                      That would also be nice because then the Tech Bros needs to adhere to the GDPR (well, they need anyway, but...) and other EU regulations... 🙂

                      @Inidox @randahl

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                      @ij @DLink @randahl That's perfect! Then we don't have to find European alternatives to Big Tech 🙂

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                      • inidox@mastodon.socialI inidox@mastodon.social

                        @ij @DLink @randahl That's perfect! Then we don't have to find European alternatives to Big Tech 🙂

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                        @Inidox Erm,... i think I need to rethink this one more time... 😉

                        @DLink @randahl

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                        • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

                          @Crisper @randahl easier to make it clearly an espionage offence to access European government data and pass it to agents of a foreign power. That plus the US laws on warrants against data abroad would make every major US company basically unable to service anything EU government related

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                          @etchedpixels @randahl I am not only thinking about govement, I am thinking about public and private companies and private consumers.
                          If your Netflix, disney+ etc subscription was added tarrif by 25 % 1 some consumers will cancel their subscription 2. The eu would have money to but into the european IT sector for development.
                          And yeah any american company should be excluded, to government contracts

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                          • dlink@posthat.caD dlink@posthat.ca

                            @Inidox @ij @randahl I personally don't know why so many Canadians want to join the EU.

                            Sure, we have shared interests, but why not just make agreements based on those interests. I don't see what membership does other than make that relationship and our own sovereignty more complicated.

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                            @DLink @ij @randahl The original EU idea was that if our economies are strongly tied together, then we will not start another World War. Later, more has been added, such as being one strong block against big external threats and competitors.

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                            • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                              @Inidox Erm,... i think I need to rethink this one more time... 😉

                              @DLink @randahl

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                              @ij @DLink @randahl He he 🙂 Yes, sometimes it can be smarter to not get too close ties to others.

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                Trump has already put 26 percent tariffs on European steel and aluminum, and he is now adding a 25 percent tariff on European cars and car parts.

                                I believe, this will continue until Canada, the UK, and the EU introduces a musketeer oath (one for all), so when Trump hits one of us with tariffs, we all hit back with the exact same tariffs.

                                If Trump knew, that his 25 percent car tariffs would immediately result in the same tariffs on US car exports to Canada, UK, and EU, he would not even try.

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                                @randahl Canada's economy is too intertwined--especially for the auto sector to mess with this without any contingency plans (unlike Tr*mp, who doesn't know what contingency means).

                                Growing up and until I moved away, I would have been able to tell you who the auto union leader's name was, he was that important to the Canadian economy.

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                                • inidox@mastodon.socialI inidox@mastodon.social

                                  @ij @DLink @randahl He he 🙂 Yes, sometimes it can be smarter to not get too close ties to others.

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                                  @Inidox Ha! We could make it a requirement to join that Big Tech will be transferred into Public Domain and 90% of their revenue will be fed into an Open Source Fund to pay all those programmers and engineers in the EU!

                                  How about that?

                                  @DLink @randahl

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                                  • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                                    @Inidox Ha! We could make it a requirement to join that Big Tech will be transferred into Public Domain and 90% of their revenue will be fed into an Open Source Fund to pay all those programmers and engineers in the EU!

                                    How about that?

                                    @DLink @randahl

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                                    @ij @DLink @randahl Good idea, but if they become owned by us all, we will want them to stop spying on us – and then there will be no revenue to share, I suppose?

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                                    • ceartas@mastodon.worldC ceartas@mastodon.world

                                      @randahl @roknrol

                                      You (weirdly) seem to assume that the orange pustule is rational.

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                                      @ceartas Who are we to question a cognitive exam, much less dozens?

                                      @randahl

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                                      • inidox@mastodon.socialI inidox@mastodon.social

                                        @ij @DLink @randahl Good idea, but if they become owned by us all, we will want them to stop spying on us – and then there will be no revenue to share, I suppose?

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                                        @Inidox Well, we could spy on the rest of the world then and get paid by them...

                                        The Donald "Mexico will pay for the Wall" Trump way, so to say... 😉
                                        @DLink @randahl

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                                        • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                                          @Inidox Well, we could spy on the rest of the world then and get paid by them...

                                          The Donald "Mexico will pay for the Wall" Trump way, so to say... 😉
                                          @DLink @randahl

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                                          @ij @DLink @randahl Perfekt! 🙂 When in Rome...

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