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    @david_chisnall Ok, yeah this is a good "technically" point In my head because the kernel packages you install with the distro includes the modules on disk, I did conflate "in the kernel" and "in the kernel PACKAGE". But isn't that the same thing? How many of those autoloaded modules did you really need? I'm not setting up tunnels or have hardware encryption options, so why are those auto "opt-in" vs defaulted "opt-out". The remediation for many of these at the start was replace those modules with /bin/false and things for many people were just fine without them, so did they really need them? should they have been included on disk? Makes a difference of what you run on your workstation vs a herd of servers as well. I'll take a different path of thought there.