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  • sr_antwerp@mastodon.socialS sr_antwerp@mastodon.social

    @broadwaybabyto move to Europe

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    @sr_antwerp @broadwaybabyto You can get unhoused in Europe, too. Especially in the cities. Once you have lost your job, you are also loosing your home because the law thinks your home is too big. And the fucking riches only rent to each other. You won’t easily find a landlord who rents to the Jobcenter.

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    • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

      The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

      They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

      They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

      They think they’re the exception.

      They’re not.

      People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

      It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

      We all need and deserve a safety net.

      #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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      #10

      @broadwaybabyto "deserve a safety net" ➡️ you do not need to "deserve" the safety net. Everybody should have a "right" to it.

      So: "We all need and *have the right* for a safety net.", at least, it should be like that.

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      • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

        @broadwaybabyto "deserve a safety net" ➡️ you do not need to "deserve" the safety net. Everybody should have a "right" to it.

        So: "We all need and *have the right* for a safety net.", at least, it should be like that.

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        @janvlug @broadwaybabyto the current housing market reeks of extortion.. everybody needs a roof over their heads and everybody is squuezed to pay up.

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        • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

          The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

          They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

          They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

          They think they’re the exception.

          They’re not.

          People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

          It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

          We all need and deserve a safety net.

          #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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          #12

          @broadwaybabyto
          So So True

          People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

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          • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

            The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

            They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

            They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

            They think they’re the exception.

            They’re not.

            People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

            It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

            We all need and deserve a safety net.

            #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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            @broadwaybabyto humans need to make a habit of saving. Stop spending over useless things. Showoff lifestyle will never give you a good life. Having good amount of money doesn't mean that you have to spend it over unnecessary things, that means u have to save ur money for unexpected incidents like illness, accident, natural disaster. Habit of living luxurious life making them poor year by year

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            • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

              @broadwaybabyto humans need to make a habit of saving. Stop spending over useless things. Showoff lifestyle will never give you a good life. Having good amount of money doesn't mean that you have to spend it over unnecessary things, that means u have to save ur money for unexpected incidents like illness, accident, natural disaster. Habit of living luxurious life making them poor year by year

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              @GOKUSHRM @broadwaybabyto This is relevant for people who have money to save. For many people there is no way to do that. Majority of people who are in danger of ending up homeless don't have that option.

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              • seq@infosec.exchangeS seq@infosec.exchange

                @sr_antwerp In case you've missed it there are homeless people in Europe too. The safety nets over here have plenty of holes too unfortunately, it's pretty well reported (it can also be extremely different from one European country to another). Everything @broadwaybabyto said is relevant all across the globe.

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                @seq @sr_antwerp @broadwaybabyto Yeah, unfortunately i know many (disabled / unemployed) people in European countries like Finland or Germany, you'd think are welfare states, being homeless or on the edge of it. I agree, everything they said is relevant here too.

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                • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                  The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

                  They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

                  They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

                  They think they’re the exception.

                  They’re not.

                  People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

                  It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

                  We all need and deserve a safety net.

                  #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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                  @broadwaybabyto It's basically the same thing as the fact, that often the people saying "money does not make you happy" or "it shouldn't be about money" are those who have it in abundance.

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                  • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                    The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

                    They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

                    They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

                    They think they’re the exception.

                    They’re not.

                    People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

                    It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

                    We all need and deserve a safety net.

                    #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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                    @broadwaybabyto Do you have street newspapers where you live? I've been reading the one in my city since it was started many years ago, and the articles written by homeless people really drove home the message to young me that homeless people are "normal people". It can happen to anybody. The risk is higher in some places, but it's never zero.

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                    • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                      The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

                      They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

                      They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

                      They think they’re the exception.

                      They’re not.

                      People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

                      It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

                      We all need and deserve a safety net.

                      #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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                      @broadwaybabyto Ideally all of life's basic necessities should be free

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                      • tuulivii@mastodontti.fiT tuulivii@mastodontti.fi

                        @GOKUSHRM @broadwaybabyto This is relevant for people who have money to save. For many people there is no way to do that. Majority of people who are in danger of ending up homeless don't have that option.

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                        @Tuulivii @broadwaybabyto government needs to start providing them home at cheap prices.
                        Also want to mention that I have seen many people buying car mobile luxurious things on loan but they don't want to buy home 1st. Very shocking 🤯

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                        • M mike805@noc.social

                          @gimulnautti @broadwaybabyto If there was a public facility like a capsule hotel in Japan, where anyone could go to get a shower, a meal, and a bed, a lot of the stress in this world would go away.

                          Extra points if it is clean and nice enough that business people use it too. If people who "could afford better" use public facilities, that is good.

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                          @mike805 @gimulnautti @broadwaybabyto IMHO that is a sticking plaster, a palliative solution that does not address the root causes.

                          We need political solutions that provide a basic level of income together with rent controls and social housing plus universal healthcare.

                          Including affordable housing units that help people with disabilities live comfortably be they wheelchair accessible, suitable for blind people or peaceful enough for those suffering from mental health issues. And so on.

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                          • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                            @mike805 @gimulnautti @broadwaybabyto IMHO that is a sticking plaster, a palliative solution that does not address the root causes.

                            We need political solutions that provide a basic level of income together with rent controls and social housing plus universal healthcare.

                            Including affordable housing units that help people with disabilities live comfortably be they wheelchair accessible, suitable for blind people or peaceful enough for those suffering from mental health issues. And so on.

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                            @mike805 @gimulnautti @broadwaybabyto I live in a relatively egalitarian society with social security some social housing, supported living for people who need help looking after themselves and universal healthcare.

                            But even here there are people who are not caught by the safety net.

                            When you lose your home and can find nowhere else to be then a bunch of other problems start appearing that make it harder to get your life on the right track again.

                            Everyone needs a safe place called home.

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                            • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                              The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

                              They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

                              They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

                              They think they’re the exception.

                              They’re not.

                              People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

                              It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

                              We all need and deserve a safety net.

                              #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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                              @broadwaybabyto Very true. I’m ok and pretty secure now but I was homeless twice (in the UK and Ireland. The system is surprisingly brittle.

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                              • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                                The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

                                They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

                                They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

                                They think they’re the exception.

                                They’re not.

                                People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

                                It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

                                We all need and deserve a safety net.

                                #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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                                @broadwaybabyto 100%

                                My son is permanently disabled (since birth) and we've given up trying to find him independent housing because it's a constant whack-a-mole, crab scrabble, roulette spin. People do not understand how bad it is (US based).

                                We're both going to be effed if disability hits me earlier in life.

                                And no amount of planning is going to help because my income isn't high enough to build reserves (single mom), and there's no family or inheritance to fall back on.

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                                • sr_antwerp@mastodon.socialS sr_antwerp@mastodon.social

                                  @broadwaybabyto move to Europe

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                                  @sr_antwerp @broadwaybabyto I’m too poor from living in the US to move to Europe.

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                                  • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                                    The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

                                    They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

                                    They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

                                    They think they’re the exception.

                                    They’re not.

                                    People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

                                    It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

                                    We all need and deserve a safety net.

                                    #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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                                    @broadwaybabyto You'd think people would have learned something from the financial crisis when so many people lost their homes.

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                                    • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                                      @broadwaybabyto This gets pretty dark when you go into reasons why they believe they will always have housing.

                                      I think you’re not taking into account several key pieces of brain research from the 2010’s.

                                      Many of them actually believe some people shouldn’t have housing, and they deserve that.

                                      People with brains that see the world through dominance/oppression group relationships, do not feel out-groups as fully human. Their empathy is selective.

                                      This argument doesn’t work on them.

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                                      @gimulnautti @broadwaybabyto exactly that is the problem!

                                      They are sociopathic af.

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                                      • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                                        The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

                                        They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

                                        They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

                                        They think they’re the exception.

                                        They’re not.

                                        People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

                                        It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

                                        We all need and deserve a safety net.

                                        #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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                                        @broadwaybabyto Well, you have to specify how would you make that right “real” who would put the economic resources to make that happen. The land, the materials, the tools, the skills, the work, the time, the money, someone would have to give it. That would be voluntary or enforced?

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                                        • broadwaybabyto@zeroes.caB broadwaybabyto@zeroes.ca

                                          The people who don’t view housing as a human right are those who believe they will always have housing.

                                          They can’t fathom becoming disabled, losing their savings or their support network.

                                          They can’t comprehend having everything ripped away from them.

                                          They think they’re the exception.

                                          They’re not.

                                          People don’t plan for homelessness or disability.

                                          It just takes one accident, illness or stroke of bad luck.

                                          We all need and deserve a safety net.

                                          #disability #ableism #poverty #eugenics #chronicillness

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                                          #28

                                          @broadwaybabyto
                                          A sizable slice of those are people who believe in the "Prosperity Doctrine" or Right-wing Christianity, or the people like Oprah who believe in "Attraction Theory" and that mere thoughts and positive energy shape reality.

                                          So, they think that as "good people" who give out positive thoughts, they will never be without a home. They also tend to believe the same foolishness about things like cancer, and are astounded when they get a diagnosis and face surgery, chemo, or death

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