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Ok so XDG and Flatpak are working to kiss the ring on fascist laws.

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  • luana@wetdry.worldL luana@wetdry.world

    Ok so XDG and Flatpak are working to kiss the ring on fascist laws. Maybe join the PRs and tell them to not do this?

    • https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/113
    • https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922
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    @luana but wait... I think they may have not read the California law to open those PRs... because even if they are doing it just to comply (which I think it is not)... the law say that the OS must send a tag saying that "bracket" of age the person is and that the app must not know the age, so this kind of bullshit needed to come after the standard for the OS level comes from.. not arbitrary sets shit up on the portal level...

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      @hazelnoot oh lmao that’s really sus.

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        @hazelnoot oh lmao that’s really sus.

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        @luana @hazelnoot oh what the heck ​​

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          @hazelnoot @luana
          age slop, new fanfic genre

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            @hazelnoot @luana

            ffs. where is my fire axe.

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            • luana@wetdry.worldL luana@wetdry.world

              Ok so XDG and Flatpak are working to kiss the ring on fascist laws. Maybe join the PRs and tell them to not do this?

              • https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/113
              • https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922
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              @luana The comments sicken me so much, nobody ever thinks about how dystopian and fucked up it is to enforce control on devices for people just because they're young. You'd think these FOSS bros would understand that a system built to spy and control a population would be a bad thing to avoid, but no it's fine when they do it to "their property" of "their" children! How do so few people see that infantilizing children is a wedge to slam fascist systems into society, everywhere.

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              • gladtherescake@todon.nlG gladtherescake@todon.nl

                @luana The comments sicken me so much, nobody ever thinks about how dystopian and fucked up it is to enforce control on devices for people just because they're young. You'd think these FOSS bros would understand that a system built to spy and control a population would be a bad thing to avoid, but no it's fine when they do it to "their property" of "their" children! How do so few people see that infantilizing children is a wedge to slam fascist systems into society, everywhere.

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                @GLaDTheresCake @luana "how dare you say how I should raise my kids"
                proceeds to force eveyrone to raise their kids the way they see right

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                • passocacornio@tech.lgbtP passocacornio@tech.lgbt

                  @hazelnoot @luana
                  age slop, new fanfic genre

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                  @passocacornio @hazelnoot @luana Maybe he wants to know if any minors use linux to groom them.

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                  • gladtherescake@todon.nlG gladtherescake@todon.nl

                    @luana The comments sicken me so much, nobody ever thinks about how dystopian and fucked up it is to enforce control on devices for people just because they're young. You'd think these FOSS bros would understand that a system built to spy and control a population would be a bad thing to avoid, but no it's fine when they do it to "their property" of "their" children! How do so few people see that infantilizing children is a wedge to slam fascist systems into society, everywhere.

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                    @GLaDTheresCake @luana foss bros never cared about the people

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                    • luana@wetdry.worldL luana@wetdry.world

                      Ok so XDG and Flatpak are working to kiss the ring on fascist laws. Maybe join the PRs and tell them to not do this?

                      • https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/113
                      • https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922
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                      @luana i say focus on this one instead, that's already closed
                      https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922

                      edit: nvm i just saw that you linked to this already

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                      • luana@wetdry.worldL luana@wetdry.world

                        Ok so XDG and Flatpak are working to kiss the ring on fascist laws. Maybe join the PRs and tell them to not do this?

                        • https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/113
                        • https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922
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                        @luana while I agree wholeheartedly that these laws are awful and need to be protested. It's not feasible for a legal entity like the orgs maintaining open source software to not comply with the laws, they would be breaking the law if they don't comply. These pull requests are only for the specification, the enforcement to use the spec still lies in the hands of distros, governments, and since linux is freely modifiable, the end user as well. The spec needs to exist because the legal requirement is there. Isn't shaming implementers of the spec effectively shooting the messenger?
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                        • luana@wetdry.worldL luana@wetdry.world

                          Ok so XDG and Flatpak are working to kiss the ring on fascist laws. Maybe join the PRs and tell them to not do this?

                          • https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/113
                          • https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922
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                          @luana how neat, they have a law that assists with the marketing towards people of different age groups without having to do the work themselves.

                          California and tech peeps responsible for this or aiding in it. Just stop, this just makes things worse.

                          "Worried about <online service> corrupting your kid? Don't you worry because we have streamlined it to corrupt them at particular points in their life and also get their DoB when a certain bracket gets reached"

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                          • luana@wetdry.worldL luana@wetdry.world

                            Ok so XDG and Flatpak are working to kiss the ring on fascist laws. Maybe join the PRs and tell them to not do this?

                            • https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/113
                            • https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922
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                            @luana@wetdry.world love how they closed comments. open source in action lmao

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                              @hazelnoot@enby.life @luana@wetdry.world Fediblock Dylan M Taylor

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                                @hazelnoot@enby.life @luana@wetdry.world "Ordinary people talking to other ordinary people over the internet is the greatest danger to children imaginable, but talking to a chatbot which gives you bad "medical advice" that kills you is totally okay."
                                -Dylan M Taylor

                                EDIT: Typo accidentally made it ableist. It has now been fixed.

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                                • luana@wetdry.worldL luana@wetdry.world

                                  Ok so XDG and Flatpak are working to kiss the ring on fascist laws. Maybe join the PRs and tell them to not do this?

                                  • https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/113
                                  • https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922
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                                  @luana@wetdry.world i'd give it a week before people release a fork that's stripped this shit out lmao

                                  and that goes for any distro that bends the knee, too. linux is free and open and we have the right to tell these lawmakers to piss off.

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                                    @zaire @luana so effectively "ethical production under fascism is impossible," honestly probably you're right, but how to fix this? don't comply and wait until the foss orgs get fined?
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                                    • marta@corteximplant.netM marta@corteximplant.net
                                      @zaire @luana so effectively "ethical production under fascism is impossible," honestly probably you're right, but how to fix this? don't comply and wait until the foss orgs get fined?
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                                      @marta@corteximplant.net @luana@wetdry.world @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                      but how to fix this? don't comply and wait until the foss orgs get fined?
                                      we have decentralization for a reason. if we cant fight these laws, we at least can hide and try to be too small targets for governments so they probably will not notice us. idk tho.

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                                        @marta@corteximplant.net @luana@wetdry.world @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                        but how to fix this? don't comply and wait until the foss orgs get fined?
                                        we have decentralization for a reason. if we cant fight these laws, we at least can hide and try to be too small targets for governments so they probably will not notice us. idk tho.

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                                        @plombirka @luana @zaire well we can still do that while big projects create the spec the users and smaller distros etc can just not use them
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                                        • marta@corteximplant.netM marta@corteximplant.net
                                          @plombirka @luana @zaire well we can still do that while big projects create the spec the users and smaller distros etc can just not use them
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                                          @plombirka @marta @zaire if a software has that spec its fascist

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