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  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

    So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

    Things you don’t need:
    - federation/distributed systems
    - multiparty end-to-end encryption
    - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

    Things you DO need:
    - a user interface that is Normal
    - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
    - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
    - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

    celestia@tech.lgbtC This user is from outside of this forum
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    celestia@tech.lgbt
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    #14

    @0xabad1dea

    you forgot:

    • windows live messenger sounds and emoticons

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    • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
      ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
      ratsnakegames@mastodon.social
      wrote last edited by
      #15

      @0xabad1dea @gabboman if you don't make it distributed, you also have to host the entire bloody thing - which gets expensive once you add video chat and/or screensharing at any meaningful scale

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      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

        So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

        Things you don’t need:
        - federation/distributed systems
        - multiparty end-to-end encryption
        - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

        Things you DO need:
        - a user interface that is Normal
        - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
        - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
        - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

        janamarie@mystical.gardenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        janamarie@mystical.garden
        wrote last edited by
        #16

        @0xabad1dea I think a huge part of the last point is the room and privilege management, allowing you to somewhat properly moderate your server. The ability to create thematic rooms is, I think, what drives many people to matrix, even in smaller communities it can be super helpful to have different thematic areas on the same server. A feature that I learned to value a lot

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        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

          So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

          Things you don’t need:
          - federation/distributed systems
          - multiparty end-to-end encryption
          - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

          Things you DO need:
          - a user interface that is Normal
          - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
          - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
          - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

          ntropic@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          ntropic@chaos.social
          wrote last edited by
          #17

          @0xabad1dea federation is extremely useful though here.

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          • ljrk@todon.euL ljrk@todon.eu

            @0xabad1dea

            > - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

            I think this puzzles me most. I just... don't. I tried, multiple times. I don't get it.

            > - a user interface that is Normal
            > - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world

            ... which is also why I wouldn't agree here, because I find Discords UI horrible :'-D

            But so is Element's etc. whelp

            stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloudS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @ljrk@todon.eu @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange then you probably shouldnt be the one to develop a discord replacement

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            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

              So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

              Things you don’t need:
              - federation/distributed systems
              - multiparty end-to-end encryption
              - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

              Things you DO need:
              - a user interface that is Normal
              - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
              - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
              - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

              isis@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
              isis@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
              isis@infosec.exchange
              wrote last edited by
              #19

              @0xabad1dea Dear user, please download our program and then use this Terminal command to bypass system security feature

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              • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

                Things you don’t need:
                - federation/distributed systems
                - multiparty end-to-end encryption
                - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

                Things you DO need:
                - a user interface that is Normal
                - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
                - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
                - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

                froge@social.glitched.systemsF This user is from outside of this forum
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                froge@social.glitched.systems
                wrote last edited by
                #20

                @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange discord has multiparty end to end encryption so you do actually need this for voice and video data

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                • isis@infosec.exchangeI isis@infosec.exchange

                  @0xabad1dea Dear user, please download our program and then use this Terminal command to bypass system security feature

                  ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #21

                  @0xabad1dea @isis yeah, that tends to happen when properly using the system security features require an annual ransom

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                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                    So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

                    Things you don’t need:
                    - federation/distributed systems
                    - multiparty end-to-end encryption
                    - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

                    Things you DO need:
                    - a user interface that is Normal
                    - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
                    - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
                    - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

                    rogerbw@discordian.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #22

                    @0xabad1dea (I realise I'm muted here, but I think some of those negative points are significant)
                    - No federation: some bastard can come along and buy it. Doesn't matter if I can run my own if everyone else is on the Nazi Server. Federation is not proof against this (see email) but it's a necessary start.
                    - No multiparty e2e encryption: we don't care about black or gay or trans people being allowed to talk without everything they say being fed into the secret police machine. They, however, do.

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                    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                      So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

                      Things you don’t need:
                      - federation/distributed systems
                      - multiparty end-to-end encryption
                      - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

                      Things you DO need:
                      - a user interface that is Normal
                      - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
                      - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
                      - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

                      michael@weatherby2378.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      michael@weatherby2378.social
                      wrote last edited by
                      #23

                      @0xabad1dea

                      Thank you.

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                      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                        So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

                        Things you don’t need:
                        - federation/distributed systems
                        - multiparty end-to-end encryption
                        - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

                        Things you DO need:
                        - a user interface that is Normal
                        - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
                        - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
                        - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

                        enejjohhem@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                        enejjohhem@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                        enejjohhem@mastodon.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #24

                        @0xabad1dea End to end encryption would be a really cool bonus

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                        • enejjohhem@mastodon.socialE enejjohhem@mastodon.social

                          @0xabad1dea End to end encryption would be a really cool bonus

                          isotopp@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
                          isotopp@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
                          isotopp@infosec.exchange
                          wrote last edited by
                          #25

                          @enejjohhem @0xabad1dea No.

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