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So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

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  • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    ratsnakegames@mastodon.social
    wrote last edited by
    #15

    @0xabad1dea @gabboman if you don't make it distributed, you also have to host the entire bloody thing - which gets expensive once you add video chat and/or screensharing at any meaningful scale

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    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

      So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

      Things you don’t need:
      - federation/distributed systems
      - multiparty end-to-end encryption
      - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

      Things you DO need:
      - a user interface that is Normal
      - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
      - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
      - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

      janamarie@mystical.gardenJ This user is from outside of this forum
      janamarie@mystical.gardenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #16

      @0xabad1dea I think a huge part of the last point is the room and privilege management, allowing you to somewhat properly moderate your server. The ability to create thematic rooms is, I think, what drives many people to matrix, even in smaller communities it can be super helpful to have different thematic areas on the same server. A feature that I learned to value a lot

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      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

        So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

        Things you don’t need:
        - federation/distributed systems
        - multiparty end-to-end encryption
        - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

        Things you DO need:
        - a user interface that is Normal
        - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
        - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
        - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

        ntropic@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
        ntropic@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
        ntropic@chaos.social
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        #17

        @0xabad1dea federation is extremely useful though here.

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        • ljrk@todon.euL ljrk@todon.eu

          @0xabad1dea

          > - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

          I think this puzzles me most. I just... don't. I tried, multiple times. I don't get it.

          > - a user interface that is Normal
          > - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world

          ... which is also why I wouldn't agree here, because I find Discords UI horrible :'-D

          But so is Element's etc. whelp

          stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloudS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #18

          @ljrk@todon.eu @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange then you probably shouldnt be the one to develop a discord replacement

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          • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

            So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

            Things you don’t need:
            - federation/distributed systems
            - multiparty end-to-end encryption
            - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

            Things you DO need:
            - a user interface that is Normal
            - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
            - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
            - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

            isis@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
            isis@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
            isis@infosec.exchange
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            #19

            @0xabad1dea Dear user, please download our program and then use this Terminal command to bypass system security feature

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            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

              So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

              Things you don’t need:
              - federation/distributed systems
              - multiparty end-to-end encryption
              - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

              Things you DO need:
              - a user interface that is Normal
              - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
              - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
              - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

              froge@social.glitched.systemsF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #20

              @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange discord has multiparty end to end encryption so you do actually need this for voice and video data

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              • isis@infosec.exchangeI isis@infosec.exchange

                @0xabad1dea Dear user, please download our program and then use this Terminal command to bypass system security feature

                ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                ratsnakegames@mastodon.social
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                #21

                @0xabad1dea @isis yeah, that tends to happen when properly using the system security features require an annual ransom

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                • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                  So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

                  Things you don’t need:
                  - federation/distributed systems
                  - multiparty end-to-end encryption
                  - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

                  Things you DO need:
                  - a user interface that is Normal
                  - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
                  - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
                  - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

                  rogerbw@discordian.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  rogerbw@discordian.social
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                  #22

                  @0xabad1dea (I realise I'm muted here, but I think some of those negative points are significant)
                  - No federation: some bastard can come along and buy it. Doesn't matter if I can run my own if everyone else is on the Nazi Server. Federation is not proof against this (see email) but it's a necessary start.
                  - No multiparty e2e encryption: we don't care about black or gay or trans people being allowed to talk without everything they say being fed into the secret police machine. They, however, do.

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                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                    So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

                    Things you don’t need:
                    - federation/distributed systems
                    - multiparty end-to-end encryption
                    - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

                    Things you DO need:
                    - a user interface that is Normal
                    - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
                    - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
                    - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

                    michael@weatherby2378.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #23

                    @0xabad1dea

                    Thank you.

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                    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                      So You Want To Write An Open Source Discord Replacement

                      Things you don’t need:
                      - federation/distributed systems
                      - multiparty end-to-end encryption
                      - an entirely new operating system kernel specially designed to—

                      Things you DO need:
                      - a user interface that is Normal
                      - the ability to use languages other than English and writing systems other than Latin
                      - higher standards of user experience than how irc actually works in the real world
                      - any fucking clue how Discord works and why people use it

                      enejjohhem@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                      enejjohhem@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                      enejjohhem@mastodon.social
                      wrote last edited by
                      #24

                      @0xabad1dea End to end encryption would be a really cool bonus

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                      • enejjohhem@mastodon.socialE enejjohhem@mastodon.social

                        @0xabad1dea End to end encryption would be a really cool bonus

                        isotopp@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
                        isotopp@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
                        isotopp@infosec.exchange
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                        #25

                        @enejjohhem @0xabad1dea No.

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