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  • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

    "Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"

    Recommended to read some of the details in this report... It's completely bonkers and immoral, whether because of privacy or climate. There is zero respect for the user nor planet left.

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    Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. — That Privacy Guy!

    Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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    @benjaoming at least you will know that this is the absolute best one. I think a lot of people will actually be happy about this. I am fairly certain that this has not taken place. It can be verified directly in the file system.

    How can this be verified? I'm pretty sure it's false.

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    • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

      @axeln @benjaoming They already have the browser itself for that, downloading the model is part of the control

      axeln@norden.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @ariarhythmic @benjaoming Exactly. Now imagine being able to orchestrate those billions of 4GB LLMs. That’s a huge data center, with your users paying the electricity bill.

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      • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

        "Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"

        Recommended to read some of the details in this report... It's completely bonkers and immoral, whether because of privacy or climate. There is zero respect for the user nor planet left.

        Link Preview Image
        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. — That Privacy Guy!

        Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

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        That Privacy Guy! (www.thatprivacyguy.com)

        epicdemiologist@wandering.shopE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @benjaoming Thank you. Uninstalled Chrome, which I rarely use anyway.

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        • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

          "Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"

          Recommended to read some of the details in this report... It's completely bonkers and immoral, whether because of privacy or climate. There is zero respect for the user nor planet left.

          Link Preview Image
          Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. — That Privacy Guy!

          Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

          favicon

          That Privacy Guy! (www.thatprivacyguy.com)

          kens@mastodon.unoK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @benjaoming
          Shortly...
          Google?
          Chrome???
          Never!

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          • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

            "Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"

            Recommended to read some of the details in this report... It's completely bonkers and immoral, whether because of privacy or climate. There is zero respect for the user nor planet left.

            Link Preview Image
            Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. — That Privacy Guy!

            Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.

            favicon

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            @benjaoming@social.data.coop

            So, while I
            have Chrome installed, I'm going to guess I haven't launched Chrome since they started this fuckery?

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            • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

              @benjaoming@social.data.coop

              So, while I
              have Chrome installed, I'm going to guess I haven't launched Chrome since they started this fuckery?

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              @ferricoxide it would be interesting with a before/after test for sure! thanks for sharing!

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              • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                @benjaoming@social.data.coop

                So, while I
                have Chrome installed, I'm going to guess I haven't launched Chrome since they started this fuckery?

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                @benjaoming@social.data.coop

                Also, I tend to make use of multiple (per) browser profiles to keep "personal" and "work" (etc.) wholly separate from each other. If I had two profiles under my user account, would I end up with 8GiB in models getting shoved onto my system?

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                • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                  @benjaoming@social.data.coop

                  So, while I
                  have Chrome installed, I'm going to guess I haven't launched Chrome since they started this fuckery?

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                  @benjaoming@social.data.coop

                  Also, I tend to make use of multiple (per) browser profiles to keep "personal" and "work" (etc.) wholly separate from each other. If I had two profiles under my user account, would I end up with 8GiB in models getting shoved onto my system?

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                  • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                    @benjaoming@social.data.coop

                    Also, I tend to make use of multiple (per) browser profiles to keep "personal" and "work" (etc.) wholly separate from each other. If I had two profiles under my user account, would I end up with 8GiB in models getting shoved onto my system?

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                    @ferricoxide those are all good questions - I'm cheering for you to go and make the experiment with your local installation and share your findings (before uninstalling Chrome)

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                    • axeln@norden.socialA axeln@norden.social

                      @ariarhythmic @benjaoming Exactly. Now imagine being able to orchestrate those billions of 4GB LLMs. That’s a huge data center, with your users paying the electricity bill.

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                      axel. No one wants to use 4GB LLMs, though. Even the 20GB version of Gemma is frustratingly "stupid" and "insubordinate". A 4GB model is going be impossibly unreliable. There's no value in using these as a distributed data centre.

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                        @liquor_american @benjaoming i think i'll search for it now. And maybe I should read the blog post... hmmm...

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                        • dckim@mastodon.socialD dckim@mastodon.social

                          @liquor_american @benjaoming i think i'll search for it now. And maybe I should read the blog post... hmmm...

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                          @liquor_american @benjaoming

                          I don't think I have it, so I feel sort of ripped off right now.

                          I tried asking the AI from google to tell me where it is.

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