"Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"
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@ariarhythmic @benjaoming If you have that model deployed on a billion machines in your own browser, who’s to stop you from remote controlling it?
@axeln @benjaoming They already have the browser itself for that, downloading the model is part of the control
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"Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"
Recommended to read some of the details in this report... It's completely bonkers and immoral, whether because of privacy or climate. There is zero respect for the user nor planet left.
Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. — That Privacy Guy!
Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.
That Privacy Guy! (www.thatprivacyguy.com)
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"Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"
Recommended to read some of the details in this report... It's completely bonkers and immoral, whether because of privacy or climate. There is zero respect for the user nor planet left.
Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. — That Privacy Guy!
Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.
That Privacy Guy! (www.thatprivacyguy.com)
@benjaoming at least you will know that this is the absolute best one. I think a lot of people will actually be happy about this. I am fairly certain that this has not taken place. It can be verified directly in the file system.
How can this be verified? I'm pretty sure it's false.
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@axeln @benjaoming They already have the browser itself for that, downloading the model is part of the control
@ariarhythmic @benjaoming Exactly. Now imagine being able to orchestrate those billions of 4GB LLMs. That’s a huge data center, with your users paying the electricity bill.
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"Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"
Recommended to read some of the details in this report... It's completely bonkers and immoral, whether because of privacy or climate. There is zero respect for the user nor planet left.
Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. — That Privacy Guy!
Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.
That Privacy Guy! (www.thatprivacyguy.com)
@benjaoming Thank you. Uninstalled Chrome, which I rarely use anyway.
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"Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"
Recommended to read some of the details in this report... It's completely bonkers and immoral, whether because of privacy or climate. There is zero respect for the user nor planet left.
Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. — That Privacy Guy!
Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.
That Privacy Guy! (www.thatprivacyguy.com)
@benjaoming
Shortly...
Google?
Chrome???
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"Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"
Recommended to read some of the details in this report... It's completely bonkers and immoral, whether because of privacy or climate. There is zero respect for the user nor planet left.
Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent. At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane. — That Privacy Guy!
Google Chrome is downloading a 4 GB Gemini Nano model onto users' machines without consent, with no opt-in, no opt-out short of enterprise tooling, and an automatic re-download every time the user deletes it. The pattern is identical to the Anthropic Claude Desktop case I wrote about last month, but the scale is between two and three orders of magnitude larger. This article does the legal analysis and, for the first time, the environmental analysis. The numbers are not small.
That Privacy Guy! (www.thatprivacyguy.com)
@benjaoming@social.data.coop
So, while I have Chrome installed, I'm going to guess I haven't launched Chrome since they started this fuckery?
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@benjaoming@social.data.coop
So, while I have Chrome installed, I'm going to guess I haven't launched Chrome since they started this fuckery?@ferricoxide it would be interesting with a before/after test for sure! thanks for sharing!
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@benjaoming@social.data.coop
So, while I have Chrome installed, I'm going to guess I haven't launched Chrome since they started this fuckery?@benjaoming@social.data.coop
Also, I tend to make use of multiple (per) browser profiles to keep "personal" and "work" (etc.) wholly separate from each other. If I had two profiles under my user account, would I end up with 8GiB in models getting shoved onto my system? -
@benjaoming@social.data.coop
So, while I have Chrome installed, I'm going to guess I haven't launched Chrome since they started this fuckery?@benjaoming@social.data.coop
Also, I tend to make use of multiple (per) browser profiles to keep "personal" and "work" (etc.) wholly separate from each other. If I had two profiles under my user account, would I end up with 8GiB in models getting shoved onto my system? -
@benjaoming@social.data.coop
Also, I tend to make use of multiple (per) browser profiles to keep "personal" and "work" (etc.) wholly separate from each other. If I had two profiles under my user account, would I end up with 8GiB in models getting shoved onto my system?@ferricoxide those are all good questions - I'm cheering for you to go and make the experiment with your local installation and share your findings (before uninstalling Chrome)
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@ariarhythmic @benjaoming Exactly. Now imagine being able to orchestrate those billions of 4GB LLMs. That’s a huge data center, with your users paying the electricity bill.
axel. No one wants to use 4GB LLMs, though. Even the 20GB version of Gemma is frustratingly "stupid" and "insubordinate". A 4GB model is going be impossibly unreliable. There's no value in using these as a distributed data centre.
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@liquor_american @benjaoming i think i'll search for it now. And maybe I should read the blog post... hmmm...
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@liquor_american @benjaoming i think i'll search for it now. And maybe I should read the blog post... hmmm...
I don't think I have it, so I feel sort of ripped off right now.
I tried asking the AI from google to tell me where it is.
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